I’m looking at this picture and all I see is people with way more than six feet between them in a sunny and well-ventilated area. I wish they had masks on, but what’s else is the problem? Given how large beaches are, is there a safer way to go outdoors? I don’t get beach outrage. https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1251260796476305409 …
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Crowded grocery stores, the NYC subway where many still don’t wear masks... Those can wreak havoc. But why such concentrated outrage at something that looks quite sensible? (Not defending Florida’s other actions. Beaches kept open with distancing seem very sane and sensible.)
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Patrick Gray
I get the feeling but that’s not science. That’s anxiety. Also I get that people are mad at other misguided policies in Florida. Fine. But I’ve yet to see an actual beach picture that warrants a concern at all proportional to the beach outrage.https://twitter.com/riskybusiness/status/1251710752664125446 …
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Does this picture give you more concern? It's from this story about reopened FL beaches, and my hunch is that it's more indicative of how people will behave: https://www.wptv.com/news/state/north-florida-beaches-among-1st-to-reopen-since-closures …pic.twitter.com/L0L7j340cO
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Replying to @JayUlfelder @zeynep
My experience over the past couple of weeks has been that some people try hard to distance and some don't, and when you mix the two in limited spaces (e.g., in grocery stores), the whole thing kind of falls apart.
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Well, agree on one part. I think indoor spaces are a grave risk and are very very underregulated. Grocery stores need flow control/limits etc. I think outdoor spaces (bigger, UV light, natural ventilation) are overregulated and it's unsustainable to keep them closed.
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Yeah, I saw (and appreciated) your piece on the importance of getting outdoors during the pandemic. But scenes like that FL beach give me concern about the other edge of that sword. No clear/easy answers...
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Agree. Regulate/manage congestion/mandate masks/avoid existing cultural schisms unless necessary, convince, don't just go for the optics... It's really hard, and I get the concern over Florida opening up retail. I wish people stuck to walks on the beach! No restaurants!
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