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    1. Daniil Gorbatenko‏ @Daniilgor 18 Apr 2020

      Daniil Gorbatenko Retweeted

      Implausible conclusion, and btw the researchers are more cautious. Look at this video made by other researchers studying aerosol. Especially, the final part on how aerosols behave when there is a flow of air. https://player.vimeo.com/video/402577241?fbclid=IwAR2TM6RrHnxbtU3aHXXQ6WOa5O11D7gvXI7lx8Y7-wz0s9aqJUNQh16BosI … https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1251556084424347649 …

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    2. Daniil Gorbatenko‏ @Daniilgor 18 Apr 2020

      @oliverbeige what do you think?

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Apr 2020
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      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @Daniilgor
      Oh, man. They even have a million places where they say "micro-droplets" and explain what they're doing, but can't stop you from misreading it. Implausible, as in what? It's a real study, real people, real results. (Also your video actually is supportive of their findings).
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    4. oliver beige‏ @oliverbeige 18 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @Daniilgor

      I'll have to give it a closer look, but @zeynep absolutely deserves the benefit of the doubt here. She is so much at the forefront of this topic that she own it. So when she says it's awesome it's almost surely awesome.

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    5. Daniil Gorbatenko‏ @Daniilgor 18 Apr 2020
      Replying to @oliverbeige @zeynep

      The paper may be awesome but it doesn't even contain the conclusion that @zeynep attributes to it. It says can't exclude aerosols but less likely because of the volume

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    7. oliver beige‏ @oliverbeige 18 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @Daniilgor

      Don't go there Daniil. She'll pwn you. Choose your opponents wisely...

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    8. Daniil Gorbatenko‏ @Daniilgor 18 Apr 2020
      Replying to @oliverbeige @zeynep

      I have no doubt about @zeynep 's intelligence or erudition but in this particular case, she's sadly arguing like a typical journalist. But let's stop here, yes

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    9. oliver beige‏ @oliverbeige 18 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Daniilgor @zeynep

      I might revert my opinion once I read the paper. And if so I'll apologize.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Apr 2020
      Replying to @oliverbeige @Daniilgor

      It's a real study! Of this virus! It carries bigger weight, a lot more than CGI, influenza studies and anything else that's not a real study of this virus. It's one study but important to have real studies. So we can see future studies, but simulations and flu not as strong.

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        2. Daniil Gorbatenko‏ @Daniilgor 18 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @oliverbeige

          The researchers in the very article you cite say that AC can push both. BTW it's been reported previously that such studies can't differentiate between droplets and aerosols. But it was for influenza, so doesn't count I guess

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        2. Daniil Gorbatenko‏ @Daniilgor 18 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @oliverbeige

          Let's quote the real study again, "Virus-laden small (<5 μm) aerosolized droplets can remain in the air and travel long distances, >1 m (4). Potential aerosol transmission of severe acute respiratory syndrome and Middle East respiratory syndrome viruses has been reported (5,6)."

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        3. Daniil Gorbatenko‏ @Daniilgor 18 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Daniilgor @zeynep @oliverbeige

          "Moreover, the smear samples from the air conditioner were all nucleotide negative. This finding is less consistent with aerosol transmission."

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