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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020

      New from me: We must recognize that the WHO failed but also that President Trump wants to break it even further. I get the impulse to defend the WHO wholesale but that doesn't help us fix this. If the WHO had stepped up, we might have avoided a pandemic. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-world-health-organization-failed/610063/ …pic.twitter.com/HjL2bgwmLI

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020

      A problem that preceded (and made possible) Trump is a lack of recognition how things were *already* broken. That's why nostalgia or restoration attempts will not get us out of here. We must understand past failures but also resist attempts to make things even worse. It's hard.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020

      So, yes defunding the WHO is a terrible idea—it's the US wanting to be the bigger bully. But it's also not a coincidence that the countries with success against COVID like Hong Kong and Taiwan have consistently defied WHO's official positions and advice. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-world-health-organization-failed/610063/ …pic.twitter.com/r4Xg6ZvzKP

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    4. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @jeremyphoward

      Neither WHO nor China said "there was no human-to-human transmission". It's a myth perpetuated by the West to scapegoat China.

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    5. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @EIFY @zeynep

      Jeremy Howard Retweeted World Health Organization (WHO)

      Really?https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152 …

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      Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China🇨🇳. pic.twitter.com/Fnl5P877VG
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    6. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @jeremyphoward @zeynep

      They "have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission" ≠ "there was no human-to-human transmission". I thought this should be obvious to people with scientific training.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @EIFY @jeremyphoward

      At the time, there was clear evidence of human-to-human transmission. The disease was spreading among family members who had never been to the market, there was a case in Thailand and Taiwan had found out about such transmission and warned the WHO of this as early as Dec. 31st.

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    8. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @jeremyphoward

      re: family members, Wuhan authorities addressed this in their Q&A (dated 01/14, published 01/15). Their full statement says "they can't exclude the possibility of limited human-to-human transmission, but the risk of sustained h2h transmission is lower". http://wjw.wuhan.gov.cn/front/web/showDetail/2020011509040 …

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    9. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @EIFY @zeynep @jeremyphoward

      The difference should be obvious to people familiar with zoonosis literature. At most, some nuance was delayed/lost from the Chinese authorities to the WHO twitter. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1198743X17306419 …pic.twitter.com/pQ2YiCxXGs

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @EIFY @jeremyphoward

      At that point they had community transmission in Wuhan. They had the household transmission. There was no question left. They just covered it up and lied. Caixin had stellar reports on this.

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        1. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jeremyphoward

          They admitted to the household transmission in the link above (目前确诊的41例病例中,发现一起为家庭聚集性,夫妻两人发病,丈夫先发病,为华南海鲜批发市场从业人员,妻子否认有华南海鲜批发市场暴露史。) There was no lie or cover-up. Find your translator if you don't believe me.

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