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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020

      New from me: We must recognize that the WHO failed but also that President Trump wants to break it even further. I get the impulse to defend the WHO wholesale but that doesn't help us fix this. If the WHO had stepped up, we might have avoided a pandemic. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-world-health-organization-failed/610063/ …pic.twitter.com/HjL2bgwmLI

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020

      A problem that preceded (and made possible) Trump is a lack of recognition how things were *already* broken. That's why nostalgia or restoration attempts will not get us out of here. We must understand past failures but also resist attempts to make things even worse. It's hard.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020

      So, yes defunding the WHO is a terrible idea—it's the US wanting to be the bigger bully. But it's also not a coincidence that the countries with success against COVID like Hong Kong and Taiwan have consistently defied WHO's official positions and advice. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-world-health-organization-failed/610063/ …pic.twitter.com/r4Xg6ZvzKP

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    4. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @jeremyphoward

      Neither WHO nor China said "there was no human-to-human transmission". It's a myth perpetuated by the West to scapegoat China.

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    5. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @EIFY @zeynep

      Jeremy Howard Retweeted World Health Organization (WHO)

      Really?https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152 …

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      World Health Organization (WHO)Verified account @WHO
      Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China🇨🇳. pic.twitter.com/Fnl5P877VG
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    6. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @jeremyphoward @zeynep

      They "have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission" ≠ "there was no human-to-human transmission". I thought this should be obvious to people with scientific training.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020
      Replying to @EIFY @jeremyphoward

      At the time, there was clear evidence of human-to-human transmission. The disease was spreading among family members who had never been to the market, there was a case in Thailand and Taiwan had found out about such transmission and warned the WHO of this as early as Dec. 31st.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @EIFY @jeremyphoward

          So it was utterly inappropriate to relay that to the world as if it were some credible investigation that had a real result, rather than a cover-up that has cost the world (and the people of China) dearly.

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        2. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jeremyphoward

          EIFY Retweeted 外交部 Ministry of Foreign Affairs, ROC (Taiwan)  🇹🇼

          Re: Taiwan, that's another myth. Are you referring to this?https://twitter.com/MOFA_Taiwan/status/1248871736914767872?s=20 …

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          外交部 Ministry of Foreign Affairs, ROC (Taiwan)  🇹🇼Verified account @MOFA_Taiwan
          This is the mail @Taiwan_CDC sent to @WHO Dec. 31, 2019. “Atypical pneumonia” to #China means #SARS. Patients “treated in isolation” means human-to-human transmission. WHO should focus on fighting #COVID19, not scapegoating victims like #Taiwan. pic.twitter.com/5FIaD1cxLX
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @EIFY @jeremyphoward

          Read my piece. It's not a myth. And it wasn't the only piece of evidence. And the authorities in Wuhan certainly knew. It was a lie. A direct lie, a cover-up. WHO has no business parroting lies.

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        1. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jeremyphoward

          That case in Thailand was a Chinese woman who took a direct flight to Thailand from Wuhan on 01/08. http://www9.who.int/csr/don/14-january-2020-novel-coronavirus-thailand-ex-china/en/ …

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        2. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jeremyphoward

          re: family members, Wuhan authorities addressed this in their Q&A (dated 01/14, published 01/15). Their full statement says "they can't exclude the possibility of limited human-to-human transmission, but the risk of sustained h2h transmission is lower". http://wjw.wuhan.gov.cn/front/web/showDetail/2020011509040 …

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        3. EIFY‏ @EIFY 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @EIFY @zeynep @jeremyphoward

          The difference should be obvious to people familiar with zoonosis literature. At most, some nuance was delayed/lost from the Chinese authorities to the WHO twitter. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1198743X17306419 …pic.twitter.com/pQ2YiCxXGs

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        2. CFD geek‏ @stoneszone 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @EIFY @jeremyphoward

          As a professor, you should at least doing some research before making your comment. The first case in Thailand was confirmed on Jan 13. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Thailand … How does WHO/China know that at Dec 30.

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        3. CFD geek‏ @stoneszone 16 Apr 2020
          Replying to @stoneszone @zeynep and

          [2] Cheung, Elizabeth (13 January 2020). "Thailand confirms first case of Wuhan virus outside China". South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 13 January 2020. Retrieved 13 January 2020

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