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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Apr 2020

      Some "science journalism": "Virus can hang in the air for days" (researchers aerosolized it in a machine). "Found on surfaces for days." (ahem PCR finding vs. infection risk). N=4 study with odd findings. "Mask evidence is mixed!" (Ignore overwhelming science). Anxiety=clicks.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Apr 2020

      What about "false security" from masks? (Cute idea but empirically discredited for safety devices). What about the study with increased infection risk? (The one that compared cloth to surgical masks (duh) whose author herself now recommends community cloth masks? Yeah, that one.)

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Apr 2020

      There's something really serious going on, and we must do a lot of very very difficult things. Last thing we need is anxiety-stoking without science or evidence. We have hospital workers banned from wearing masks while people are torturing their amazon boxes with bleach. Nuts.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Apr 2020

      Accumulated evidence for transmission in hospitals, big indoor living places (nursing homes; cruise ships, probably apartment buildings), crowded indoors (grocery stores, gatherings, mass transportation). Avoid them as much as possible, keep distance, watch hygiene + wear masks!

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Apr 2020

          Folks, do note that amazing amount of great journalism is also being done. Reporting from inside China and the US administration and hospital has been pretty amazing. There has been some stellar science journalism, too. But there is a long and fat tail of anxiety-miasma pieces.

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        1. Chris Gordon‏ @FredNurke 12 Apr 2020
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          Now that the mask discussion is more in the open, and perhaps even because of that, we should start talking about risk and viral load.

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        1. daniel gray‏ @MPGomatic 12 Apr 2020
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          Hazmat suits for in-store grocery shopping gigs? I’m doing delivery work. 😷 We need to make major changes to the platform’s standard procedures. 🇺🇸🚗🛒

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        1. SG Abbott  💉 💉 💉 🦕 🎨‏ @Mspundit 12 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          I have been wondering what the latest is on who gets it and how they get it. This is helpful.

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        2. Bill Wilson‏ @Bill_Wilson_1 12 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          Funerals also seem to have been major spreaders. Think of the crying and singing and the rubbing of eyes and noses. We do have to try and figure out the key vectors and focus on them. I'm think outside parks not so much.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Bill_Wilson_1

          Yes, some important (and tragic) examples from funerals too. Crowds, concentrations of sick people, and indoors/less ventilation seem to be the prominent dangers.

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        2. Brussels cyclo-pedestrian‏ @bXLpedestrian 12 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          What's the evidence on apartment buildings? Hoping it's weak as I live in one... Most people in Chinese cities live in apartments and lockdown seemed to work there without it spreading through them?

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Apr 2020
          Replying to @bXLpedestrian

          China yanked sick people from their homes and quarantined them separately, so not comparable. That said depends on shared surfaces/ventilation/how people go in and out. Cruise ships are apparently petri dishes. Modern apartments probably less. See:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/opinion/coronavirus-buildings.html …

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        1. Jennifer Gresham‏ @JenGresham 12 Apr 2020
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          Any scientific papers you'd recommend on transmission thru the air in these places?

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        1. MummyMD ❤️‏ @UoKnowsBest 12 Apr 2020
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          I’m cruising! Period!

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