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    1. Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes 10 Apr 2020

      The excess death data in NYC is so so upsetting and staggering and still isn't, as far as I know, being integrated into the official counts.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Apr 2020
      Replying to @chrislhayes

      The excess deaths are likely a combination of undiagnosed COVID-19 plus deaths due to lack of care (unattended heart-attacks, postponed care/surgery) minus car crashes minus flu deaths (tail end of usual season but now social distancing so probably much lower).

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        2. Eric‏ @NYCDemocrat318 10 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes

          https://www.thedailybeast.com/nycs-coronavirus-death-toll-expected-to-surge-as-officials-include-deaths-at-home …

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        3. #GQPFascistFvcks4ChopChop‏ @REALaltMiddle 10 Apr 2020
          Replying to @NYCDemocrat318 @democrat_nyc and

          I heard they had been instructed not to test non-hospitalized fatalities like this

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        2. Aguas de março‏ @aguasdemarco 10 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes

          So, in a way, almost all are deaths resulting from the covid pandemic. They should be counted as such. We could speak of direct and indirect deaths.

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        3. whatever‏ @WhySoManyIdiots 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @aguasdemarco @zeynep @chrislhayes

          they are direct, diagnosed in the absence of tests and put on the death certificate

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        1. Sharman‏ @Sharman6642 10 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes

          Good point. Given lower mortality from other causes due to distancing, there's an even greater number unaccounted for, compared to previous years.

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        1. Bram P‏ @BramPiet 10 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes

          Good point. I hadn't thought of the minus category which will complicate the year over years analysis. In SF I hear no ambulances near hospital. Accidents are down while corona is moderate/almost under control (for now).

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        2. Jayson DeMar‏ @jaysondemar 10 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes

          Some portion are undoubtedly attributable to COVID-19. But since the excess deaths being discussed are those found/reported dead at home, how many of these would have happened in public (ie at work, the gym, the store, etc) if social distancing wasn’t in place?

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        3. Jayson DeMar‏ @jaysondemar 10 Apr 2020
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          I wonder if that is tracked. No idea whether it would be negligible or significant.

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        1. Geoff‏ @geoffrie 10 Apr 2020
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          I like itpic.twitter.com/r7KJvzqTZT

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