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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Apr 2020
      Replying to @kirtipatelmd

      (I don't disagree that we should have the other legs, and it's a disgrace that we don't. I don't think that's an argument against source-control measures and yeah should've been ready and had surgical masks at least for population but here we are.)

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    2. Kirti Patel, MD‏ @kirtipatelmd 8 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      Really? Because I see that you retweeted a "open the parks in NJ" article after they experienced their highest # of single day deaths yesterday. Masks, but open the parks. Absolutely dangerous and irresponsible messaging. #stayhome

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    3. Kirti Patel, MD‏ @kirtipatelmd 8 Apr 2020
      Replying to @kirtipatelmd @zeynep

      My elderly parents live in Jersey, my sister works at a hospital in NY. People like you and your dumb mask messaging at a time when everyone should be socially isolating AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE is putting us all at risk.

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    4. Kirti Patel, MD‏ @kirtipatelmd 8 Apr 2020
      Replying to @kirtipatelmd @zeynep

      The time for masks is when we can safely go back to society. That time is not now.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Apr 2020
      Replying to @kirtipatelmd

      Why wait? Grocery store clerks are out there. Harm reduction now. I wish we did more now. Here we are, and anything that slows this is important. I'm not any less frustrated by lack of progress on all the other fronts.

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    6. Kirti Patel, MD‏ @kirtipatelmd 8 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      Oh are we only talking about essential workers? Yes they should wear PPE. But I know we are not when you say "open the parks". Everyone else should not be out in the parks wearing masks. You are completely distracting people from what is important and proven to work.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Apr 2020
      Replying to @kirtipatelmd

      We cannot keep parks closed for a year. People just crowd into streets. We get worse effects. My article is pretty clear on need to make outdoors compatible with distancing and add to space (golf course, stadiums). I'd agree if this were two weeks. It's not gonna work for a year.

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    8. Kirti Patel, MD‏ @kirtipatelmd 8 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      Jeez how about you bring this up in a few weeks when everyone isn't dying at record high rates. This is so ridiculous. Surreal, actually, that this is a conversation. I guess you must not be very close to the death that's happening all around you. My colleagues are dying.

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    9. Vamsi Aribindi‏ @aribindi 8 Apr 2020
      Replying to @kirtipatelmd @zeynep

      I recall at least one paper noting a higher rate of flu transmission if you were wearing a cloth mask than no mask at all.

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    10. Kirti Patel, MD‏ @kirtipatelmd 8 Apr 2020
      Replying to @aribindi @zeynep

      Thank you. I'm so pissed at all the mask talk, the CDC for the stupid "make you own cloth mask!" primer, what BS. We need goddamn tests! We need people to stay home!

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Apr 2020
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      We need all the rest, but we also should have listened to the scientists in much more successful countries. https://twitter.com/lwcalex/status/1235091542219448321 …

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        2. Kirti Patel, MD‏ @kirtipatelmd 8 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @aribindi

          We don't have all the "rest" as you call it, though it is the core of pandemic mitigation, but here you are highly focused on the masks. Spend your time drawing attention to the fact that we have less testing per capita than any of these successful places. See: Germany.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Apr 2020
          Replying to @kirtipatelmd @aribindi

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Boris Ruge

          Many people are covering all that, and I don't disagree with what a disgrace it's been and often say so! Btw German Medical Association recommends masks. There is no reason for hostility to something that will help reduce the pileup at the hospitals.https://twitter.com/RugeBoris/status/1243445606548455424 …

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          Boris RugeVerified account @RugeBoris
          German medical association @BAEKaktuell calls on people to wear makeshift #masks at all times. Needed NOW: A public info campaign to get this going in #Germany What about @jensspahn doing his next presser with a fancy mask? #masks4all #covid19 https://www.aerzteblatt.de/nachrichten/111423/BAeK-Praesident-ruft-zum-Tragen-von-Schutzmasken-auf … pic.twitter.com/8TCRXOCH1D
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