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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Tara Haelle

      How "false security" or "risk-compensation" don't work. This picture is evidence FOR MASKS. That trooper would almost certainly be doing the same thing without a mask—if facts and science hadn't won this argument.😀Risk-compensation is not a common thing at all! Needs evidence.https://twitter.com/tarahaelle/status/1247371868656603136 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Tara HaelleVerified account @tarahaelle
      Prime example of false security of a mask. This TX state trooper might have an N95—can’t tell—so nose & mouth maybe protected. But his eyes aren’t & gloved hand on his leg is problem. He shld NOT be that close to driver. We have more evidence for #socialdistancing than #Masks4All pic.twitter.com/MdOLmkxG2c
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      People used to argue the same thing for motorcycle helmets—false security, etc. You can even find individuals for whom this may be true. But, at the community level, overwhelming evidence of many lives are saved by motorcycle helmets. Similar structure of argument for masks.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      Keep an eye out for risk-compensation but there really is decades of literature against safety features with claims they would lessen safety because of false security. You find reckless individuals, sure, but at the community level safety features.. tend to result in more safety.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      So unless there is actual evidence of false security, and unless it's so overwhelming that it would override what you would sociologically expect—that masks signal business is not as usual and lessen stigma for sick people to be able to wear masks—it's not a reason for caution.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Amy Hoy

      YEP! That is exactly the argument often made against health-insurance and for more co-pays.https://twitter.com/amyhoy/status/1247621960055394304 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Amy Hoy @amyhoy
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      people make the same argument against health insurance 😪 moral hazard
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Sanjith G.

      Exactly right. Those "false security" arguments need real evidence before being cause for caution because they almost never pan out at community level. We are not in some uncharted empirical territory here, despite how clever it may superficially sound.https://twitter.com/SanjithG_/status/1247629872844787712 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Sanjith G. @SanjithG_
      On point. Risk compensation is one of those too-clever-by-half theories used often to argue against road traffic safety measures. It's almost always a second-order effect dwarfed by the direct benefits. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1247615718750924811 …
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        2. Ann Brocklehurst‏ @AnnB03 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          I tested the false security theory on my latest walk. The 2 people that aggressively breached 6 foot rule were a male jogger & a female phone talker. The heavy breathing jogger swerved close to multiple people. The phone talker stuck to middle of sidewalk, refusing to give way

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        3. Ann Brocklehurst‏ @AnnB03 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @AnnB03 @zeynep

          Neither were masked

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