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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Tara Haelle

    How "false security" or "risk-compensation" don't work. This picture is evidence FOR MASKS. That trooper would almost certainly be doing the same thing without a mask—if facts and science hadn't won this argument.😀Risk-compensation is not a common thing at all! Needs evidence.https://twitter.com/tarahaelle/status/1247371868656603136 …

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    Tara HaelleVerified account @tarahaelle
    Prime example of false security of a mask. This TX state trooper might have an N95—can’t tell—so nose & mouth maybe protected. But his eyes aren’t & gloved hand on his leg is problem. He shld NOT be that close to driver. We have more evidence for #socialdistancing than #Masks4All pic.twitter.com/MdOLmkxG2c
    1:02 PM - 7 Apr 2020
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

        People used to argue the same thing for motorcycle helmets—false security, etc. You can even find individuals for whom this may be true. But, at the community level, overwhelming evidence of many lives are saved by motorcycle helmets. Similar structure of argument for masks.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

        Keep an eye out for risk-compensation but there really is decades of literature against safety features with claims they would lessen safety because of false security. You find reckless individuals, sure, but at the community level safety features.. tend to result in more safety.

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

        So unless there is actual evidence of false security, and unless it's so overwhelming that it would override what you would sociologically expect—that masks signal business is not as usual and lessen stigma for sick people to be able to wear masks—it's not a reason for caution.

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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Amy Hoy

        YEP! That is exactly the argument often made against health-insurance and for more co-pays.https://twitter.com/amyhoy/status/1247621960055394304 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Amy Hoy @amyhoy
        Replying to @zeynep
        people make the same argument against health insurance 😪 moral hazard
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      6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Sanjith G.

        Exactly right. Those "false security" arguments need real evidence before being cause for caution because they almost never pan out at community level. We are not in some uncharted empirical territory here, despite how clever it may superficially sound.https://twitter.com/SanjithG_/status/1247629872844787712 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Sanjith G. @SanjithG_
        On point. Risk compensation is one of those too-clever-by-half theories used often to argue against road traffic safety measures. It's almost always a second-order effect dwarfed by the direct benefits. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1247615718750924811 …
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      2. ItSpreadsLikeSmoke 😷‏ @DaddyD0dd 7 Apr 2020
        Replying to @zeynep

        I’m a risk manager and that is not how you do risk management. The coronavirus problem is so close to a literal Swiss cheese model of risk, it’s not even allegorical.

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      3. Michael‏ @novussubsole 7 Apr 2020
        Replying to @DaddyD0dd @zeynep

        What's the Swiss cheese model of risk?

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      2. Name cannot be blank‏ @finsarg 7 Apr 2020
        Replying to @zeynep @onThePaepae

        I don't buy the comparison with 'safety features' like helmets. There are so many ways that you can contaminate yourself with incorrect use of gloves and masks. How many times has the trooper changed his gloves? How many IDs has he touched?

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      1. Jack‏ @Jac5Connor 7 Apr 2020
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        100% accurate

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