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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      All over the world, the authorities are closing down parks and trails—but that's unsustainable, counterproductive and probably even harmful. Instead, we should adapt to the pandemic and retool them for social-distancing. My new piece on why and how. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/closing-parks-ineffective-pandemic-theater/609580/ …pic.twitter.com/Va2r4a6mT7

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      The idea that people won't comply even if we make it easy and possible is unfounded. Besides, a lot of transmission occurs indoors! Keeping people indoors for too long will have many negative health consequences including reduced immunity—very high cost. https://twitter.com/Schenck/status/1247549290987356161 …

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      Folks, please check the evidence! The value of outdoors in fighting pandemics/infections is so strong that there are peer-reviewed papers recommending that we *encourage* people to spend more time outdoors during the next pandemic (this one!)! We just need to do it sensibly.pic.twitter.com/PK9yX6RY5S

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      I get it. We're all anxious. Plus, authorities are swinging from underreaction ("carry on, worry about the flu) to wrong advice ("masks don't help") to non-evidence based overreaction ("close all the parks"). But we need evidence-based, sustainable policies—not pandemic theater.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted No Justice, No Peace

      Yep. I discuss exactly this in the piece. Many reports like this. Instead of having sensible guidelines for congestion and ways to increase space, authorities do anxiety-driven pandemic theater that focuses on optics rather than risk management or health.https://twitter.com/axleyjc/status/1247564584279396354 …

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      No Justice, No Peace @axleyjc
      Replying to @zeynep
      An unintended consequence of closing parks, trails, etc. is that we encounter *more people* when walking around *our neighborhood* than when we went on a hike! And sidewalks are not very wide. And nobody around here wears masks outdoors.
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      That alleged "sunlight quackery peddler who was referenced in a medium article... pulled down for misinformation" is in fact a peer-reviewed publication in one of the premier scientific journals of public health in the world. Also not a bro! But carry on. https://twitter.com/ijessesmith/status/1247569122713415680 …

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      Now, this is a random person's incorrect opinion. As I argue in the piece, outdoors, exercise and fresh air are not luxuries, but essential to health and immunity. Still striking how many authorities don't seem to include that fact in their calculations. https://twitter.com/retrophit/status/1247609011735846912 …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Blerchance

      I do actually agree, and mention in the piece that we should consider opening up streets to pedestrians along with congestion management techniques—especially if park/lawn space is limited in a given locale.https://twitter.com/blerchance/status/1247611326748336131 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Blerchance @blerchance
      Replying to @zeynep
      I think your piece is interesting, but you keep referencing "exercise, outdoors, and fresh air" as if they *only* exist in parks. My brief forays to Prospect Park have shown fairly crowded roads and trails while the gorgeous residential blocks surround the park are ghost towns
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted just somebody  🌙 ✨

          If it were just a few weeks, sure. But time to face reality, folks. It's already been more than a month in some places. It's going to be many more weeks, perhaps many more months, and perhaps a year—on and off. Need evidence-based, sustainable policies.https://twitter.com/lalawolfi/status/1247613531869941761 …

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          just somebody  🌙 ✨ @lalawolfi
          Replying to @zeynep @nataliesurely
          “If I can’t go to the park for a few weeks I will surely perish” is selfish and shortsighted. Trying to stop a pandemic is like herding cats. Cats give a fuck about themselves and do what they want, it’s an apt comparison.
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jack Monowitz

          Anyone who thinks the epidemiology of a pandemic is somehow independent of the sociology of it is going to be, well, in for a surprise. All claims are linked to peer-reviewed public health and epidemiology articles. Thank you for the vote of confidence!https://twitter.com/JackMonowitz/status/1247619805009641472 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Jack Monowitz @JackMonowitz
          Replying to @zeynep
          Since your academic background is not epidemiology, you should probably exercise your right to free speech on something else. Your sophomoric BS can get people killed.
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Apr 2020

          "What about playgrounds?" "What if it's too crowded?" "We can stay home for a few weeks." I need a "read the piece" bot. 😬

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Cambs Police  💙

          I hear a lot of "people won't comply." Well, read the piece. Making things overly-harsh and unsustainable makes it harder to get compliance. People then won't comply out-of-sight either. And is this a solution? They'll send cops to arrest people? And what?https://twitter.com/CambsCops/status/1247589993071226884 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Cambs Police  💙Verified account @CambsCops
          We have now developed an online form allowing you to report individuals breaching COVID-19 restrictions via our website: https://bit.ly/2V8qPol . Please do not call 101 to report breaches. Thank you for supporting the #StayHomeStaySafe message 👍 pic.twitter.com/8rBxyZdmbt
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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted City of Richmond BC

          This is smart and appropriate! Without sane guidelines and outlets, many reports that people end up crowding on sidewalks. We should expand space (close down some streets! let people use stadiums/golf clubs!) and make smart use of existing parks/trails.https://twitter.com/Richmond_BC/status/1246518935555461120 …

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          City of Richmond BC @Richmond_BC
          Please be advised that the City of #RichmondBC has implemented a one-way walking route at Garry Point Park. This one-way route has been established to help facilitate physical distancing on the trail: http://bit.ly/2Jyxenf  pic.twitter.com/MD2IWBBYRJ
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        7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted

          This makes sense! Make space rather than imprison people indoors! https://twitter.com/ashk4n/status/1248442190017122304 …

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        8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Robin Sizemore

          Yep. Not preparing and then panicking and then scolding people because it's obviously not possible or even advisable to stay indoors completely for months aren't good policies. But that's what's been happening in many places, creating more crowded places.https://twitter.com/RobinSizemoreWV/status/1249036598005637121 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Robin Sizemore @RobinSizemoreWV
          Replying to @Schenck @zeynep
          People here were mostly complying at the local park, but the city panicked because we had a pretty Saturday. Assuming the park would get too crowded, they closed it... Only for park-goers to off-road around the gates or park blocking the road so they could get outdoor time
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        9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Marc Lipsitch

          I'm adding this excellent piece by @mlipsitch, @j_g_allen and @ArnArbDirector here. I know people have been using it to plead with authorities to keep parks open, so they can add this superb article! (Mine: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/closing-parks-ineffective-pandemic-theater/609580/ …)https://twitter.com/mlipsitch/status/1249794738586300421 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Marc LipsitchVerified account @mlipsitch
          Keep parks open. The benefits of fresh air outweigh the risks of infection. With @j_g_allen & Ned Friedman @ArnArbDirector https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/04/13/keep-parks-open-benefits-fresh-air-outweigh-risks-infection/ …
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        10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2020

          My local Facebook groups are full of alarming stories on the toll of the pressure cooker of the quarantine on households. Without mincing words: getting people some fresh air, exercise, and a change of scenery responsibly is a genuine safety concern—and outdoors is our best bet.

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        11. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2020

          This is what my local trails do: post reminders at the entrance but keep the trails open. Here, just that works. There can be many congestion management techniques as necessary. (I’ve been lucky. Weather has been great all month and I now trail bike or run almost every day! 😄)pic.twitter.com/SLQdlhrN5q

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        12. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Apr 2020

          But I keep hearing of people who have nowhere to go because authorities closed what park/outdoor space exists, or are misinformed about the benefit/risk trade-off for outdoors. That is not sustainable and it's dangerous. People are reporting alarming behaviors within households.

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        13. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Amesh Adalja

          I'm adding this here. There is not good scientific reason to totally close down parks or beaches the way authorities have been doing; and a lot of reasons to keep them open with sensible guidelines to limit unreasonable congestion or crowding.https://twitter.com/AmeshAA/status/1253167141819428864 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Amesh AdaljaVerified account @AmeshAA
          In this @henrygrabar @Slate piece I am quoted about the transmission of #covid19 in outdoor settings https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiENq4sETiTxVCLhA0Ba9MThAqFQgEKg0IACoGCAowuLUIMNFnMLvgAg?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen …
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