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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Sherie Edenborn PhD‏ @EdenbornPhd 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      I hope you are right. I’m a microbiology prof & a few days ago would have agreed 100%, but what I’ve seen the last few days (used masks all over the bike trail, people with masks ignoring the 6ft lines, et cetera). If we think of others in addition to self I’m all for masks.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @EdenbornPhd

      That is absolutely something we should be on the lookout for! This is what I fear with lack of trust—people were told falsely that masks don't work at all, and maybe now it's harder to communicate the nuance that they really help dampen spread but aren't magic wands.

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    3. Lora Kolodny‏Verified account @lorakolodny 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      i didn't see the "masks don't work at all" posts. i'll go do some research into that matter - but curious what the hall of shame stories or speeches were, in your view? (dm's open if you don't want to put them on blast here, and if you have the time or interest in trading notes.)

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    4. ZJ Morris‏ @ztopiapub 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @lorakolodny @zeynep

      What about runners huffing and puffing down sidewalks with no masks? And walkers following in their footsteps afterwards? 😬

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    5. Sherie Edenborn PhD‏ @EdenbornPhd 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @ztopiapub @lorakolodny @zeynep

      The Montour trail in Pittsburgh has been PACKED with people. There have posts about bikers spit flying on people et cetera & bikers putting pool noodles on their bikes to keep others 6 ft away. Also lots of good people doing what they should to protect themselves & others.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @EdenbornPhd @ztopiapub @lorakolodny

      I think we should look into separating runners from walkers and other congestion management techniques (like with traffic) so that people can have access to outdoors/exercise (essential) without increasing anxiety/risk (not good!). Key is maintaining distance.

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    7. ZJ Morris‏ @ztopiapub 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @lorakolodny

      So only runners run in a huffing-and-puffing runner's wake? That doesn't mitigate the runners aerosol wake reality much, does it?

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @ztopiapub @lorakolodny

      I would personally not consider running behind a runner outdoor to be high-risk, especially if everyone ran in the same direction and kept a few feet apart. (It's not at all proven that there is aerosol (tiny floating) rather than droplets (larger)).

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    9. Tarmacoff‏ @tarmacoff 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @ztopiapub @lorakolodny

      Are you really qualified to give advice at this level of granularity?

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    10. Lora Kolodny‏Verified account @lorakolodny 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @tarmacoff @zeynep @ztopiapub

      How is saying what you do personally, "giving advice"?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @lorakolodny @tarmacoff @ztopiapub

      Also if authorities would like to step up and give us proper well-reasoned guidance, I'd welcome it. In the meantime, all I can do is what I personally do! Feel free to ignore and not drop in on my threads!

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        2. ZJ Morris‏ @ztopiapub 6 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @lorakolodny @tarmacoff

          I personally AM asking what you would personally do because you have been so on top of this for so long! Very impressive🙏

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020
          Replying to @ztopiapub @lorakolodny @tarmacoff

          Thanks! I think runners/walker should space out and we should institute ways to make that spacing out stick and be respected. But I tend to follow Hong Kong/Taiwan health authorities (they are on top of this!) https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/keeping-the-coronavirus-from-infecting-health-care-workers …pic.twitter.com/6ug65HktoO

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        2. Sherie Edenborn PhD‏ @EdenbornPhd 6 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @lorakolodny and

          I think that is great! It isn’t just about the distance that a microbe can travel, it is about how safe you feel. The other part of this is our immune system helping us & reducing stress helps it work better. Can provide a reference for those who want them 😉

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020
          Replying to @EdenbornPhd @lorakolodny and

          In a piece I'm working on, I linked to one paper, a classic older one. Feel free to send suggestions! :-D I just want us to manage parks/trails so that we don't expect people to stay indoors for 12 months. (My argument outdoors/exercise=less stress=better health=better immunity).

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