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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 1 Apr 2020

      Ok, Twitter, you asked for it, I promised it, and here it is: 4200 words on #Masks. Should everyone wear masks? The simple answer is there is no simple answer, but we're getting there. #Masks4All #coronavirus #COVID19https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/04/01/should-everyone-wear-a-mask-in-public-maybe-but-its-complicated/ …

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    2. Randi Hernandez‏ @RandiMHernandez 3 Apr 2020
      Replying to @tarahaelle

      I often wonder about the mental health of the mask wearer and if it improves the mask wearer’s anxiety and is therefore protective in an indirect way...even if a homemade mask!

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    3. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 3 Apr 2020
      Replying to @RandiMHernandez

      That’s one of the reasons I don’t knock them. If it makes people feel more comfortable, that alone has value. One of the points @zeynep has made is that it’s a mark of solidarity and “we’re in this together & I’m taking it seriously,” which is a valid point.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Apr 2020
      Replying to @tarahaelle @RandiMHernandez

      It does *not* just make them feel more comfortable. They are less likely to infect others. This is so insulting! But I give up. The science and the evidence is so strong that we managed to convince many nations and even the slow-moving CDC bureaucracies. The science has won.

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        1. Randi Hernandez‏ @RandiMHernandez 3 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @tarahaelle

          Yes, I acknowledge that benefit of wearing masks, too. I was framing it in the view of how the wearer feels—like even if the mask is not as effective in preventing things from getting in, it makes the wearer feel like they are doing what they can—for everyone involved.

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        2. Simon Munro MBChB MRCPsych MA‏ @simontmunro 3 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @tarahaelle @RandiMHernandez

          Perhaps both are correct? Wearing a mask contributes to minimizing spread and, at the same time, makes the wearer feel more comfortable. I think it's possible for both those realities to coexist.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Apr 2020
          Replying to @simontmunro @tarahaelle @RandiMHernandez

          Saying it’s for comfort as if it were a good luck charm rather than a scientifically-sound practice is condescending and insulting. People wrote articles like that about Hong Kong! Can you imagine if someone said vaccinations may not work but feel free if it feels comfortable??

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        1. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 3 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @RandiMHernandez

          Perhaps I didn't communicate that well—I wasn't saying that masks *wouldn't* help prevent presymptomatic transmission. If you read my piece, I make that clear. I'm saying BEFORE we had that data, there were still valid reasons people might have worn masks, as you showed/said.

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        1. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 3 Apr 2020
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          IOW, I was trying to give you credit for pointing out the various reasons mask-wearing has positives independent of mechanical ways of preventing transmission. Those were points you made in your NYT piece. I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear.

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