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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Pod Save America

      There are plenty of accurate things to blame the Trump administration for, but this is flat out false and dangerously so. China lied and covered up until Jan 20, and even after. It’s also gravely disrespecting the Wuhan whistleblowers who risked everything. Please delete this.https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1245121589181476864 …

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      Pod Save AmericaVerified account @PodSaveAmerica
      Jan. 1: China tells Trump admin that this is a horrific pandemic. Jan 20: First American gets coronavirus. The time we lost waiting for him to realize what everyone was telling him is heartbreaking. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/testing-coronavirus-pandemic.html … https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1245117346395697152 …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      Maybe he burst into tears because they were lying about all the crucial details. That is NOT "China tells Trump admin this is a horrific pandemic." OTOH, Taiwan told the truth to the WHO by Jan 1, but WHO kept on parroting China's false claims for weeks. https://twitter.com/Hehrman001/status/1245359775870844928 …

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Apr 2020

      Everyone thinks partisanship and polarization erodes fact-based analysis only among their opponents. I can't construct a "China told Trump of a horrible pandemic on January 1" no matter how I slice and dice this. Just can't make it work. See timeline:https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/02/coronavirus-and-blindness-authoritarianism/606922/ …

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Apr 2020

      I mean is it so hard? We should have been prepared for this pandemic, which unfolded almost exactly like SARS including cover-up by China except we got a less consistent clinical presentation, so much harder to contain. Why make China "tell" Trump when it did nothing of the sort?

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Apr 2020

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      Unless you have reporting nobody else has, this did NOT happen. If China told the WHO of a "horrible pandemic" or even human-to-human transmission early Jan and WHO kept lying for many more weeks, time to set-up the crimes-against-humanity tribunals. https://twitter.com/Aziazi72907007/status/1245365588957859840 …

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Apr 2020

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      Yep, this is what happened. There absolutely needs to be an investigation into it. What did WHO know and when? It is a very, very good question. I hate to say this, but no guarantee we won't have future pandemics. It's perhaps the most important question. https://twitter.com/jay_how1971/status/1245366354343059457 …

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted gz

      China didn't inform us or the world, but yeah, there was no reason to wait even until January 20. The signs were there, and countries like Taiwan and the people of Hong Kong leapt to action first week of January. But not because China told anyone anything.https://twitter.com/gz48367515/status/1245370128650260480 …

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      So counting from Jan 20, despite China tipped on Jan 7, and ignoring things like the long incubation period, spreadable while asymptotic, etc., were not known then, how much time did Trump waste?
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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Greg Merklin

      Yep. The rumors were there by then. Taiwan figured it out by sending a team to Wuhan in December, and started January with mask production/distribution, travel ban, tracing. They have *five* total deaths, still, and they reopened their schools a month ago.https://twitter.com/GMerklin/status/1245378986252918785 …

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      Greg Merklin @GMerklin
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      If our own intelligence services were still in the dark about this after Christmas, there’s some ‘splainin to be done. We pay them a crapton of money to ferret these things out.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted (((cpltalk)))

      Yes, very very true and important. It was the government of China, not the people of China. From the people of China we have seen heroism, suffering, whistleblowing, heroic medical work and also, amazing journalism (Caixin has been amazing, for example).https://twitter.com/cpltalk/status/1245382038481403905 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      (((cpltalk))) @cpltalk
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      Can you please emphasise in your tweets that it was the Chinese government that covered up, not "China". Chinese people around the world are getting blamed for something completely out of their control.
      9:08 AM - 1 Apr 2020
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        1. agorafalandoserio‏ @agorafalandose2 1 Apr 2020
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          I cannot stop thinking how this heroic Chinese people must be jealous of the beautiful liberal western democracies right now, especially how much they must want to have someone as Donald Trump as their president!

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        2. Kraig Schmidt‏ @kraigschmidt 1 Apr 2020
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          If the Chinese people don’t carry any responsibility for what their govt does, then who does? It seems inexplicable to absolve the only people who actually can change China from any responsibility to do so. Similarly, all Americans carry the burden of the Trump administration.

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        3. Small Still Voice‏ @smallstillvoice 9 Apr 2020
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          Comparing communism to democracy regarding voice of the people? Nawwww.

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