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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Mar 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jay Rosen

      Yep. Lack of reflection among media and pundits that made all this so much worse is mindblowing. All of February, I watched people locally use those “what about the flu/travel bans don’t work/don’t overreact” articles to decide go on trips and conferences.https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1242647591990562816 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jay RosenVerified account @jayrosen_nyu
      Replying to @zeynep
      Run-up to the Iraq War. Financial crisis in 2008. Election of 2016. No broad reckoning after any of them. Notice how after each of these collapses, there's a huge story to cover. So they move on.
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Mar 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Amy Siskind  🏳️‍🌈

      Judging by the way everyone’s already ignoring how wrong and dangerously misleading so many liberal/traditional pundits/papers were up until early March, I say they will do fine. Every tribe is blind to themselves.https://twitter.com/amy_siskind/status/1242801225449562112 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Amy Siskind  🏳️‍🌈Verified account @Amy_Siskind
      There are a lot of people whose reputations will never recover from this era. “Fox's Brit Hume says it’s an “entirely reasonable viewpoint” to expect that grandparents would be willing to die to protect the economy.” https://www.mediamatters.org/brit-hume/foxs-brit-hume-says-its-entirely-reasonable-viewpoint-expect-grandparents-would-be …
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Mar 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted  🦎 Curious Reptile  🦎

      And even that was not a great question. Look, some of the people I'm criticizing here include my friends and circles. They're human, the mistakes are human but the problem is the things are set-up. Can't fix that without admitting failure.https://twitter.com/livebeef/status/1242853462209150977 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

       🦎 Curious Reptile  🦎 @livebeef
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      I've not seen a single reporter or outlet admit fault. No humility. In some cases historical revisionism by claiming this was primarily Trump's fault. Which, while it was substantively his fault, it was also substantively the traditional media's fault at a pivotal time.
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Mar 2020

      I don't agree with everything in this piece, but it's good. I was alarmed in January and switched in February to try to warn people and get pundits to stop writing "what about the flu" and "don't panic" pieces and got lectured and/or failed. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/why-was-it-so-hard-to-raise-the-alarm-on-coronavirus.html …pic.twitter.com/Tixr5TTzHo

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Mar 2020

      Look at the catastrophe unfolding in NYC. It will soon be perhaps the worst hit place globally, and it's not a coincidence that it's the center of exactly that kind of "what about the flu/don't panic" pundit-world/media. Yes it's hard to hear but this is not just a Trump failure.pic.twitter.com/5AJWK7evn4

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    6. James Gleick‏Verified account @JamesGleick 26 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      Zeynep, with respect, that’s a terrible take. NYC’s catastrophe might have something to do with extreme population density, street life, mass transit—more intense and varied crowd mixing than any other US city. I assure you panic/care began earlier here than most places.

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    7. IreneHLin‏ @IreneHLin 26 Mar 2020
      Replying to @JamesGleick @zeynep

      Taiwan and Seoul are just as dense as NYC and have contained the virus. Preparation matters as does leadership. America was asleep. Media and politicians.

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    8. James Gleick‏Verified account @JamesGleick 27 Mar 2020
      Replying to @IreneHLin

      I suggest it’s a mistake to blame “media and politicians”—or all of “America”—en masse. Choose your targets more specifically. There’s plenty of blame to go around, but some journalists (and some politicians) were on the ball from the outset.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2020
      Replying to @JamesGleick @IreneHLin

      There were a lot on the ball, indeed but I really liked this piece... "Alarmism" and "disinformation" got conflated. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/why-was-it-so-hard-to-raise-the-alarm-on-coronavirus.html …

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    10. James Gleick‏Verified account @JamesGleick 27 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      Yes, the David Wallace-Wells piece is first-rate. And de Blasio was a disaster. Overall, though, surely you agree that most of the fatal disregard came from Trump and his ideological followers: Fox News et al. Continuing to this day, of course.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2020
      Replying to @JamesGleick

      I absolutely agree! I'm just pointing out that we're blind to our own tribe's failings. I watched (in horror) in February locally as people shared the "what about the flu/don't panic/travel bans don't work" stuff from liberal outlets, and traveled, held conferences etc.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @JamesGleick

          The admin's failings, Fox News.. We can see all of it very clearly . A disaster. Agree. But, despite that, we didn't do what *we* could do as people partly because we were told to ... chill. Hong Kong has unresponsive government, but the people acted and saved themselves.

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        2. Asymptomatic Egg 🥚‏ @iamjimmyo 27 Mar 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @JamesGleick

          I feel this is really overestimating the influence of pundits.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2020
          Replying to @iamjimmyo

          Maybe, but I watched people act in response to those articles *and* it's the one thing they are supposed to do, no?We kept being told worry about the flu, travel bans are racist (whatever the admin might be motivated by, severe travel restrictions were imperative), don't panic...

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        2. James Gleick‏Verified account @JamesGleick 27 Mar 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          I guess I resist “our own tribe.” No one I knew or respected was saying ‘what about the flu’ etc. You obviously heard more of that than I did. Anyway I think it’s wrong to say NYC was the center of the bad punditry (“it’s not a coincidence …”).

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Mar 2020
          Replying to @JamesGleick

          I can certainly see it not being prevalent among your circles! I saw a lot of it being disseminated among ordinary people trying to decide on travel or conferences in my relatively highly-educated area.

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