Yep. Lack of reflection among media and pundits that made all this so much worse is mindblowing. All of February, I watched people locally use those “what about the flu/travel bans don’t work/don’t overreact” articles to decide go on trips and conferences.https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1242647591990562816 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Amy Siskind 🏳️🌈
Judging by the way everyone’s already ignoring how wrong and dangerously misleading so many liberal/traditional pundits/papers were up until early March, I say they will do fine. Every tribe is blind to themselves.https://twitter.com/amy_siskind/status/1242801225449562112 …
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Amy Siskind 🏳️🌈Verified account @Amy_SiskindThere are a lot of people whose reputations will never recover from this era. “Fox's Brit Hume says it’s an “entirely reasonable viewpoint” to expect that grandparents would be willing to die to protect the economy.” https://www.mediamatters.org/brit-hume/foxs-brit-hume-says-its-entirely-reasonable-viewpoint-expect-grandparents-would-be …6 replies 32 retweets 232 likesShow this thread -
zeynep tufekci Retweeted 🦎 Curious Reptile 🦎
And even that was not a great question. Look, some of the people I'm criticizing here include my friends and circles. They're human, the mistakes are human but the problem is the things are set-up. Can't fix that without admitting failure.https://twitter.com/livebeef/status/1242853462209150977 …
zeynep tufekci added,
🦎 Curious Reptile 🦎 @livebeefReplying to @zeynepI've not seen a single reporter or outlet admit fault. No humility. In some cases historical revisionism by claiming this was primarily Trump's fault. Which, while it was substantively his fault, it was also substantively the traditional media's fault at a pivotal time.4 replies 20 retweets 124 likesShow this thread -
I don't agree with everything in this piece, but it's good. I was alarmed in January and switched in February to try to warn people and get pundits to stop writing "what about the flu" and "don't panic" pieces and got lectured and/or failed. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/why-was-it-so-hard-to-raise-the-alarm-on-coronavirus.html …pic.twitter.com/Tixr5TTzHo
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Look at the catastrophe unfolding in NYC. It will soon be perhaps the worst hit place globally, and it's not a coincidence that it's the center of exactly that kind of "what about the flu/don't panic" pundit-world/media. Yes it's hard to hear but this is not just a Trump failure.pic.twitter.com/5AJWK7evn4
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But NYC is significantly more dense than most other cities, and incomparably filthy (I, personally, love that filth & age, so that's not an insult - but that filth isn't great in a pandemic for sure). NYC is also HUGE for its density. Houston, Phoenix, LA, etc. everyone drives.
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I think part of your critique is right - they should have started earlier with prevention - but it's also partially the very nature of NYC. People not even having cars/depending on crowded, dirty public transport, etc. Other US cities don't compare; NYC is quite unique in the US.
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The public transit alone is differently used, nevermind that everything is really close-from how far people sit at coffeeshops/restaurants, to tinyness of apartments & # of ppl living in them. Other urban places in US don't really compare. This impacts disease transmission.
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Hong Kong is more dense with almost no public space in the city. They held to zero growth for months and are now dealing with re-importation but still tiny tiny numbers in comparison. Their government also resisted action. People acted anyway. So there was another way.
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Not disagreeing with your basic premise, but I'm from NY and live hear Seattle now (basically a big suburb with a tiny "downtown" type area, not really a city to my mind) and they are just such different places, that it makes sense to me that transmission would be faster in NYC.
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But yeah I'm pointing out something else, not comparing NYC to a rural place.
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I was comparing cities I've lived in: Boston area, SF Bay Area (huge suburban areas w/in city with scattered downtowns), Seattle— to NYC and thinking abt disease transmission. Not talking rural, just these cities that are car-culture places.
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My point stands though. What was coming was obvious in February.
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