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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      By the way, here's my thread from January 29th about that NEJM paper mentioned in the article. More with similar findings came out right after that. That's what I mean, we wasted February. It was right there us but we kept hearing what about the flu.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1222662053329924098 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      So far, #nCoV2019 has some features more favorable than SARS (no super-spreaders identified yet etc.) BUT @NEJM paper says some have atypical presentation: gastro symptoms or mild clinical presentation. (SARS came with high fever). Translation: we need maybe millions of tests.😬
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Thread from a month ago. 😢https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1232352734990520331 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      "We get the flu every year." You know what will happen if we hit COVID-19 unprepared? More people will die of... the flu. And everything else. On top of COVID-19. We have only so many hospital beds, ventilators, ICUs. To be ready means we are ready to flatten the curve—buy time.
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2020

      It's going to be like the 2016 election, isn't it? Many journalists did amazing reporting since, but there really hasn't been any systematic reckoning among traditional media and punditry about their own role in all of it. (They'll talk about the tech part, though). So with this.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Mar 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jay Rosen

      Yep. Lack of reflection among media and pundits that made all this so much worse is mindblowing. All of February, I watched people locally use those “what about the flu/travel bans don’t work/don’t overreact” articles to decide go on trips and conferences.https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1242647591990562816 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jay RosenVerified account @jayrosen_nyu
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      Run-up to the Iraq War. Financial crisis in 2008. Election of 2016. No broad reckoning after any of them. Notice how after each of these collapses, there's a huge story to cover. So they move on.
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    5. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 25 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      The media coverage on this story has been not without flaws. But pretty good on balance as compared to most other major stories of recent years. Doing journalism in real time is hard. But I guess when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

      11 replies 1 retweet 30 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Mar 2020
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      This just isn't true. There have been widespread "worry about the flu" articles; focus on travel bans as racist rather than if they were early or severe enough (they weren't), tons of articles telling people not to "overreact"—right up until March. Long, long past uncertainty.

      1 reply 2 retweets 50 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538

      Yes, journalism in real time is hard, that's why it should be done with people who are qualifed and more importantly, learn from their mistakes. People went on with conferences and Disney trips because of those articles. Plus, there is still no "speaking truth to power" on masks.

      1 reply 3 retweets 44 likes
    8. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 25 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      I don't know. I, as an alert reader of media coverage, have been worried about this for a long time, as my friends/colleagues would be happy to tell you. The coverage has been pretty science-driven. The focus on the political aspect of it has been fairly proportionate.

      7 replies 2 retweets 45 likes
    9. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 25 Mar 2020
      Replying to @NateSilver538 @zeynep

      Uncertainty amidst something growing at exponential rates is both hard to understand and hard to convey to readers—I get that. I'm just tired of this constant hindsight bias when journalists don't have that luxury.

      8 replies 2 retweets 25 likes
    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Mar 2020
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      It isn't hindsight bias, though. People who had no business reassuring us reassured us falsely and unscientifically. I trace that in my article. In early February, we had everything in place to 1-Recommend stopping travel/cancelling gatherings. 2-Tell people to get ready.

      2 replies 1 retweet 41 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538

      Instead of reporting, we got scripts "travel bans are racist", "panic is bad", "overreaction has downsides" etc that are sometimes appropriate, but weren't to this. That's the whole value of journalism though! Break the script and investigate! Otherwise, it's autopilot punditry.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Mar 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538

          It's a failure akin to "what about her emails" reporting in 2016. Journalists didn't understand odds versus poll averages and coupled error (all that was in your footnotes) when, by March, it was clear to me he had a chance (I wrote it in NYT then) and to the polls in summer.

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        2. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 25 Mar 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          I don't see any attempt from you to evaluate the coverage in a comprehensive way. You're cherry-picking. You're lumping unlike things together. No nuance for which outlets are doing better or worse. No recognition for what journalism is like in real time.

          7 replies 1 retweet 75 likes
        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Mar 2020
          Replying to @NateSilver538

          I certainly agree that there should be a comprehensive study of this, but I'm confident that I am not cherry-picking. I also watched this from ground up locally. But just like 2016; media itself more interested in studying failures of anything but itself.

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