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    1. John Daniel Davidson‏Verified account @johnddavidson 24 Mar 2020

      John Daniel Davidson Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Excellent piece in The Atlantic about why media and local governments, not just the Trump admin, failed to anticipate the dangers of the Wuhan coronavirus.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1242426243909332993 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      We wasted February and the failure wasn't just from the administration. Many in media, too, fueled the complacency. Why? Because we don't know how to think about complex systems—something we must learn to get through this. I explain how. New piece from me. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/03/what-really-doomed-americas-coronavirus-response/608596/ … pic.twitter.com/MBdkBqvnPs
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2020
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      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      Could you please watch this video of a doctor's body being transported in Wuhan with the sound on (that's his wife following the van) and maybe reconsider adding to the suffering of people in Wuhan because you want to feed a political beef in the US? https://twitter.com/i/status/1230038128271822848 …

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    3. John Daniel Davidson‏Verified account @johnddavidson 24 Mar 2020
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      How on earth does it add to the suffering of people in Wuhan by referring to the geographic location of the virus' origin?

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2020
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      It's their home, and now it's forever associated with something terrible. They are victims of a government they had no choice in. Imagine your name being changed to your worst tormentor. That's what you get called forever on. That's what "I'm from Wuhan" has become.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @johnddavidson

      I'd prefer to weaken the association between their home, and something terrible that happened to them they did not cause, and highlight the things they did actually do—their whistle-blowers, their medical workers... Especially now that it's become a pandemic.

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    6. John Daniel Davidson‏Verified account @johnddavidson 24 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      The good news is that we can both accurately refer to where the virus came from as a way to push back again CCP propaganda, and also highlight the heroism of the people of Wuhan, as @FDRLST has tried to do throughout this crisis - https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/13/hear-the-voices-from-wuhan-that-china-has-tried-to-censor/ …

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2020
      Replying to @johnddavidson @FDRLST

      There is no need to call the virus its place of origin, though. Few people will read anything any of us writes about the heroism of people of Wuhan, but this virus needs a name forever. Again, imagine your name being changed to the worst thing that happened to you.

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    8. John Daniel Davidson‏Verified account @johnddavidson 24 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @FDRLST

      I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. I happen to think it's important that the CCP is held accountable and that its propaganda doesn't go unchallenged. Naming the virus' place of origin is one way to call out the CCP's misdeeds in all this.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2020
      Replying to @johnddavidson @FDRLST

      That's exactly the opposite of what that's achieving though. You're using the name of the victim to try to get to the perpetrator. It's pretty much opposite of holding the CCP accountable. Wuhan isn't their property or representative.

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    10. John Daniel Davidson‏Verified account @johnddavidson 24 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @FDRLST

      CCP propaganda has claimed the virus originated in the US, not China, and that it was introduced to China by the US military. It's important to push back on that and state accurately where this came from. Also think most ppl understand that the ppl of China are victims of the CCP

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2020
      Replying to @johnddavidson @FDRLST

      You can say all that without naming the virus for the first and biggest victims. That consideration should be first and foremost; have the domestic political argument after that. I'm well aware of the CCP propaganda. Helping stigmatize the people of Wuhan doesn't help a pushback.

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        2. John Daniel Davidson‏Verified account @johnddavidson 24 Mar 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @FDRLST

          I don't think it stigmatizes the ppl of Wuhan. I do think it stigmatizes the CCP, which is why the CCP is so adamant that media not use "Chinese virus" or "Wuhan virus."

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Mar 2020
          Replying to @johnddavidson @FDRLST

          Neither of those names are about the CCP. CCP just steps into these domestic fights because people using Wuhan or Chinese as name makes the CCP look better. It's not my first concern but that name is actually doing CCP's bidding. Chinese is a billion+ people, not property of CCP.

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