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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. jonstokes(\.com|\.eth)‏ @jonst0kes 23 Mar 2020

      jonstokes(\.com|\.eth) Retweeted PoliMath

      Everyone drop what you're doing and read this one tweet. (also, CC @zeynep)https://twitter.com/politicalmath/status/1242121273397760003 …

      jonstokes(\.com|\.eth) added,

      PoliMath @politicalmath
      This moment has re-aligned me in a profound way pic.twitter.com/x4YnrYhFHo
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2020
      Replying to @jonst0kes

      Um, okay but.. that's not an observational or experimental study, it's a model. Why on earth people changing their minds from a model (models can be great; models can be bullshit) when there is tons of actual high-quality evidence and studies? @politicalmath @antoniogm

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2020
      Replying to @antoniogm @jonst0kes @politicalmath

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      I think that has been factually concluded, just waiting for the admission. I wrote about it weeks ago, for the NYT no less, and expected big backlash. Nope. No backlash from doctors or epidemiologists, but many privately contacting me to say thank you.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1239903421970501640 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      For the @nytimes, I wrote about why health authorities telling people they didn't need masks, and, besides they wouldn't wear them right, misfired and maybe even fueled hoarding. There will be many painful truths, and we need to learn to talk about them. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html … pic.twitter.com/vBhEbS2rJk
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @antoniogm and

      (TBH I was a bit wary but felt I had to write as loudly as possible given the stakes. I braced for the onslaught. I waited for people to find studies I had missed. Something I hadn't considered... Anyway, there is only one truth, especially for surgical masks: don't have enough).

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2020
      Replying to @antoniogm @jonst0kes @politicalmath

      Yeah, that part is obvious. Basically the most overt pushback I got was "misinformation" expert who tried a pretzel-argument that it was harmful (touch your face more and/or false sense of security and/or improper wear) but it was so stupid that she went back to subtweeting me.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @antoniogm and

      Almost all the arguments about people don't do it right or false security apply to hand-washing more, and masks are quite likely more effective than handwashing (that's what a SARS review found, though both are necessary obviously).

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @antoniogm and

      Obvious point that nobody can really deny is that given asymptomatic transmission and limited testing, the only way is universal masking. And given how culture works, even if we had perfect testing and zero asymptomatic transmission, no way can we only tell the sick to mask up.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @antoniogm and

      Even weirder is the comparative concern over surface transmission. Such tail risk. Viral load decay is exponential and surface to mouth is a long way. But fine, sanitize surfaces let boxes wait. BUT IT'S A RESPIRATORY DISEASE. We are bleach wiping cardboards but masks don't work?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @antoniogm and

      I've gotten less patient over time given the stakes. Still many "experts" can't wrap their heads around authorities or their messaging being wrong... Can't distinguish between idiot misinformation and genuine fact-based calling out of falsehoods.

      11:35 AM - 23 Mar 2020
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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Mar 2020
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          Folly, thou conquerest, and I must yield!

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