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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Mar 2020

    People comparing Trump ignoring the coronavirus intelligence report to “Bin Ladin preparing to strike”: can you please jog your memory? The pandemic was blazingly obvious by end of January without any secret intelligence *and* most mainstream US punditry and Europe also flunked.

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      1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Mar 2020

        It’s an amazing moment for how partisan blinders work across the political spectrum. It’s hard, of course, to be vigilant to it. But it’s striking once you notice it.

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      2. Josh Hug‏ @Trerp 20 Mar 2020
        Replying to @tedstein @zeynep

        Same, though I didn't go absolutely all out because I'm generally very against market timing. Did cushion the blow though!

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      2. Lisa Randall‏ @lirarandall 20 Mar 2020
        Replying to @zeynep

        Ha. Just made that comparison myself. I see your point but there are some glaring common features. Like it was inevitable but we didn't know when. So they thought they could ride it out even if eventually there would be a problem. Just didn't know when and how.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Mar 2020
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        The difference is the public information by end of January was overwhelming and credible. The administration’s failure: sure, it’s right there. Even without a single intelligence report. It’s just that the failure was near universal outside of a few countries in Asia.

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      1. Dan Polovina‏ @danpolovina 20 Mar 2020
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        He wasn’t ignoring the reports, he was outright publicly denouncing them. What are you talking about?

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      1. David Kaye‏Verified account @davidakaye 20 Mar 2020
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        the comparison to seeing something, something so urgent that it went directly to the president, something well-known across govt & parts of media, and then largely ignoring it, doing nothing - that seems valid. but yes, all those ppl you mention failed.

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      1. Paul Cantrell‏ @inthehands 20 Mar 2020
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        You’re not wrong, but the amount of warning alarms going off •within• career gov was indeed not public knowledge in Jan. It was also obvious on 2001 w/o secret intelligence that Bin Laden was determined to strike. The scandal was specificity if private warning yet inaction.

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      1. Jordan Dea-Mattson‏ @jdeamattson 20 Mar 2020
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        I remember taking steps - I am based in Singapore - over the Lunar New Year weekend to prepare for #COVID19 and being told I was over-reacting.

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      2. Steven M. Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 20 Mar 2020
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        But it’s the job of intelligence agencies to pick out what’s important, despite all the noise, and whether or not the media and the pundits got it right. The claim here is that the IC did flag it but he wouldn’t listen.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Mar 2020
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        Yes. But the issue is almost everyone else also ignored or downplayed something that was very much publicly known.

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