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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @hermit_hwarang

      Threaten doctors with arrest, hide human-to-human transmission and hold giant banquets are not just bureaucratic hiccups. They did leap to action after Jan 20, finally, as the epidemic would devastate them, too. But too late to stop the pandemic. It was possible in December.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @hermit_hwarang

      I think we should honor the massive sacrifices of tens or even hundreds of millions of people in China. Not the authorities who brought this on all of us.

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    3. Myrrhx & Sleighngels  🎄 🎅‏ @hermit_hwarang 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      Yes they took action when sufficient evidence gave cause A few cases of pneumonia does not justify a total shutdown of society. This pandemic was brought to us by biology and the failure of many countries to heed China's warnings. The CCP isn't responsible for other governments.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @hermit_hwarang

      No they did not take action when they had evidence. They did not have a "few cases of pneumonia." They had a novel coronavirus and they new it—Chinese scientists decoded the genome first week of January. 40K person potluck: January 18. Other governments have other issues.

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    5. Myrrhx & Sleighngels  🎄 🎅‏ @hermit_hwarang 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      Politicizing this pandemic as emblematic of an exceptional Chinese incompetence or cruelty does little but scapegoat a disaster that is of many govts' making. I hope you're ready to accept responsibility for the consequences engaging in this rhetoric will have for all of us. Bye!

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @hermit_hwarang

      They lied through SARS, they lied through this one. We barely contained SARS, and only because of luck with clinical symptoms (consistent fever). Denying this reality is a grave disservice to the people of China who suffer the most for these disasters.

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    7. Trần Minh khố chuối‏ @rustycol 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      around lunar new year, viet people going back to europe were pulled aside at airport because they were suspected virus carriers, but white travellers weren't screened. koreans were denied toilet on airplane with disease as pretext, even if the plane took no other precaution

      1 reply 4 retweets 19 likes
    8. Trần Minh khố chuối‏ @rustycol 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @rustycol @zeynep

      the western authorities are too racist to handle this issue competently because lol asian problem. and now conveniently, when that bites europe and the US back, china's responsibility is litigated. I know you're well meaning and wish to be nuanced, but this line of talk

      1 reply 7 retweets 21 likes
    9. Trần Minh khố chuối‏ @rustycol 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @rustycol @zeynep

      will only fuel attacks on asian diasporas. litigate this later, not now when the fear is at the peak.

      1 reply 3 retweets 15 likes
    10. Trần Minh khố chuối‏ @rustycol 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @rustycol @zeynep

      at street level, it won't matter if you differentiate between the government and the people, or even china and the rest, because any of us yellows can be a target

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @rustycol

      On the contrary, I believe the real way to fight this racism is to make it clear who is to blame. Pretending CCP culpability doesn't exist doesn't make it any better. Maybe the truth is a better effort at a remedy. I mean who can look at Hong Kong and believe the docility myths?

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        2. Trần Minh khố chuối‏ @rustycol 19 Mar 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          easier said when you aren't the one that pays the price.

          1 reply 3 retweets 23 likes
        3. Trần Minh khố chuối‏ @rustycol 19 Mar 2020
          Replying to @rustycol @zeynep

          also east/southeast asia was containing the spread effectively while china sealed itself, until western racism and incompetence leads to the current mess. Arguing that december was the only opportunity to stop this becoming the current pandemic is just wrong

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        1. David‏ @DKthroughmyeyes 20 Mar 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @rustycol

          I disagree. Complete genome released Jan 11. 670 million people lockdown for CNY. Not enough for countries to listen? Asia listened, western countries went business as usual. Western response nothing to do with China. China will be their scapegoat. Asians will suffer.pic.twitter.com/hRnNgGTyiw

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