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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Mar 2020

      This may be hard to hear but let me say it while things are still early. Maybe we'll get lucky with seasonality, immunity and antivirals. But a year or more of hardship is not implausible. "Flatten the curve" is about the immediate crisis. A difficult year will still be ahead.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Mar 2020

      I don't think we'll run out of food or toilet paper. Much of that is just demand spikes which will resolve. But there will be all sorts of other challenges, some not yet on the public agenda. There are people who specialize in that kind of thinking and planning. We gotta adjust.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Mar 2020

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      I know most everyone's focusing on the short-term, and hopefully helping to flatten the curve. Our response will shape the short-term outcomes. Remember, there is no fixed destiny here.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1232349689422532608 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      I don't think people understand the issue. There are no fixed numbers. There is no single R0 (infectiousness), no single CFR (case fatality rate), no single percent infected. It's all a Schrödinger's pandemic: to be settled when COVID-19 hits our infrastructure and our response.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Mar 2020

      Mentally speaking, false hope and "two weeks of lock-down and it will be better" doesn't work for me. Personally, I do better with realistic information, even if grim. In any case, please be easy on yourself. This will take more than a few weeks, or probably even a few months.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Mar 2020

          So we have to start thinking for steps after the immediate moment. It'll be here soon! It was very frustrating being dismissed in late January and February by the "what about the flu" crowd. I'm now worried that people will think we're down just for a few weeks.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Mar 2020

          I'm saying all this partly because I'm afraid the short-term messaging will make the long-term harder. Managing expectations and realism is one key to resiliency! To end, here's a baby sea otter from Monterey Bay. (I love that place, looking forward to visiting again!)pic.twitter.com/i06O7wvYel

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        1. Max C‏ @Xanderkish 16 Mar 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          Same. I don't trust false optimism. It normally just makes me more unhappy because I can see through it.

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        1. Pierre @HOME‏ @PetV 16 Mar 2020
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          Reality will -sadly- set in soon enough. Once we're going to see the images of mass triage

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        1. GiaTasha‏ @GiaTashaTomasso 16 Mar 2020
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          My Chinese students are going back to normality. Their parents have worn masks at all times for 5 WEEKS. Even at home. It will drag out if people dont heed. But really... social distancing and isolation works. There is no point thinking it wont pass. It will.

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        2. Elettra Bietti‏ @Elibietti 16 Mar 2020
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          I share the frustration but am not sure information + liberalism holds in places where the risk of infection is extremely high and people hard to motivate. When lockdown is necessary, putting everyone in the same condition is important.

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        3. Elettra Bietti‏ @Elibietti 16 Mar 2020
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          One of the frustrating things for me about the US and UK attitude is the fact that the rich will be able to save themselves while others are left behind.

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        2. ...K...‏ @K15music 16 Mar 2020
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          do you think we will be battling with this for the remainder of 2020?

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        3. Ausir‏ @VaultAusir 16 Mar 2020
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          if not longer

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        1. Mike Norman‏ @MikeInOhio 16 Mar 2020
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          My wife's company all started working from home today. 900 employees. Her boss, one of the VP's, told them, "See you in June...hopefully". That might even be optimistic.

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