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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Mar 2020

      The New York Times has managed to get their hands on the still-not-public CDC projections. One model estimates 160 to 214 million infected in the US, with 200,000 to 1.7 million dead. That’s middle range of the projections what I’m seeing. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/coronavirus-deaths-estimate.html …pic.twitter.com/4wcFP92ghV

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Mar 2020

      Today’s press conference felt like watching the waves recede on a crowded beach, with the tsunami warning blaring but with the resort management that wants to keep selling kitschy souvenirs playing loud music over it. It’s the worst I felt for the US in months of following this.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Mar 2020

      We could be on the lower or higher end of this—the one hopeful thing is how much decentralized action that’s happened just this week. It’s not enough but it’s something. The US has a lot of low density areas, lowish smoking rates, low pollution. These are the positives.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Mar 2020

      The negative is that we’re late. And we’re on our own. What an unnecessary tragedy.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Mar 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Cheri Rodriguez Jones

      This is an example of how differently we think. This is a model from two weeks ago assuming little mitigation, and that’s no comfort. Two more weeks passed since with some actions starting just the last few days. “It’s old” means worse for the projections.https://twitter.com/cheri_rod_jones/status/1238591014488748032 …

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      Cheri Rodriguez Jones @cheri_rod_jones
      Replying to @idkdd_idk @zeynep
      I was scrolling through comments hoping that at least one person was going to show they read this. This is also based on an estimate from last month and doesn't account for what we're currently doing to limit the impact. THANK YOU.
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Mar 2020

      Let me put it this way. Two weeks ago, CDC projected potentially 1 million dead Americans, and we still we don’t even have widespread testing. I don’t understand how this makes anyone feel better. The actions we’ve taken so far are good—but not what they were worth two weeks ago.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Mar 2020

      Epidemiology is trying to outrun the wave. Every late day means you have to run even faster—much faster. Don’t self-soothe folks. We can still influence things, and we already are but people have to look realistically at the scenarios. Bending this curve requires so so much more.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Mar 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted  ❌Lemzia  ⭐️  ⭐️  ⭐️

      The worst case scenario is exactly what we need to hear. We have started very late and done fairly little so far. Just started. This isn’t the stuff you count on random luck for.https://twitter.com/lemzia/status/1238600454507859968 …

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       ❌Lemzia  ⭐️  ⭐️  ⭐️ @lemzia
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      That is most likely a "Worst case scenario" and SHOULD NOT be made Public! Your tweet is IRRESPONSIBLE and will only serve to CAUSE PANIC!!! SMFH.
      4:07 PM - 13 Mar 2020
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Mar 2020

          Folks, look at Hubei, ~50 million. They had ~3000 deaths *after* putting everyone practically under house arrest and building new hospitals when they were about 40-100 deaths in. Just that ratio translates to about 20K deaths in the US. We barely closed schools just this week.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Mar 2020

          If we engaged in drastic action now and, hopefully, got lucky—sustained immunity after infection, seasonal denouement, quick response from existing antivirals—we'll still looking at a big event. Please, please don't relax simply because there's finally been some action this week.

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        1. Jonas Persson‏ @BishopBlougram 13 Mar 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          I read somewhere that when the government was upfront about risks and casualties in 1918, people tended to follow public health advice. But when they thought the government was underplaying the risks, yeah, civil disorder, which was not conducive to mitigation spread.

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        1. Brian‏ @Atom2384 13 Mar 2020
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          @threadreaderapp unroll

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        1. sadunkal‏ @sadunkal 13 Mar 2020
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          Actually the worst case scenario is that the tests are unreliable and virology is pseudoscience and by relying on unproven tests and claims people are causing themselves unnecessary suffering and wasting resources.. Probably the real scenario too

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        1. Findrianna  🌹(@  🏘)‏ @findrianna 13 Mar 2020
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          Panic and hysteria are two very overused words. Thank you for posting. I personally want to hear all the data not just the part trying to make me feel better.

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        1. Aaron Stewart-Ahn‏Verified account @somebadideas 13 Mar 2020
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          This is not the worst case scenario, when you factor in rule of law, supply lines, overwhelmed hospitals, and the economy coming to a stop.

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        1. Bentalope‏ @behaviorben 13 Mar 2020
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          Throughout this thing, folks have confused preparation with panic. Looking away from ugly scenarios does not help people stay alive, preparation does.

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        1. Sandy M‏ @SandyMo45199837 14 Mar 2020
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          I agree that keeping the worst case scenario may be what keeps us on our toes. Also agree that many states have taken over where the Trump admin. has failed miserably. If we allow people to have a sense of comfort that it's going to be ok it only ends up getting worse & quickly.

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