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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @sivavaid @benedictevans

      Facebook feed, like any engagement-optimized algorithm, seems to disproportionately amplify things that promote in-group bonding, out-group conflict, “aaaaw” stuff, novelty (fakish news is novel!) and anger. That’s a very specific kind of bias, and it’s socially centrifugal.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @zeynep @noUpside and

      It doesn’t map onto conservative/liberal bias in traditional mass media. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/opinion/the-real-bias-built-in-at-facebook.html …

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    3. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @zeynep @sivavaid @benedictevans

      right, I've said as much as well and we agree on all of that.

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    4. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @zeynep and

      there is not, afaict, any epidemic of deplatforming. most accounts that are booted have fallen afoul of a ToS requirement (which is non-ideological). but in this thread I'm now reading that any ToS is an affront to freedom of speech.

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    5. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @zeynep and

      throttling the spread of fake news, decisions to add friction to virality, reranking a feed - things that might impact reach - are now denying a right to be *heard*.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @zeynep and

      where we came down on health misinformation earlier this year was that its creators could post it, but the reco engine would not promote it, and FB would not accept $ for ads. is that policy violating freedom of speech?

      1 reply 2 retweets 1 like
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @sivavaid @benedictevans

      Again, what if that policy is applied to Elizabeth Warren? Who decides such a powerful TOS? How is it implemented? How many moderators are interpreting the TOS for, say, Sri Lanka? I believe these are free speech issues—but also that we balance this with other potential harms.

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    8. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @zeynep @sivavaid @benedictevans

      if the platform goes out and targets a specific individual who has committed no violation, that's a problem. Outside of worst-case thought experiments, has that happened? "who decides?" - again, we are all on board with oversight and regulation. even Mark Zuckerberg.

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    9. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @zeynep and

      back in the IRL now, where there are significant not-potential-but-actualized harms, reducing distribution/virality while maintaining access *was* the effort at balancing the preservation of speech. this is exactly my point.

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    10. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @zeynep and

      Your writing on this, here: https://www.wired.com/story/infowars-alex-jones-voldemort-platform-attention-gaming/ … again, we agree and have largely said the same things. we have got to get past this "who decides" paralysis and begin to experiment with solutions. i think distribution and acct authenticity are the two best levers right now.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @sivavaid @benedictevans

      We may agree on the levers but it’s still a free speech issue how it’s decided what’s a violation and what is not—and how it is implemented.

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        2. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
          Replying to @zeynep @sivavaid @benedictevans

          and my belief is that allowing the presence of what mods term 'borderline' content - while reducing recommendations/virality - is the best option we have to balance free speech w/the other concerns. combined w/a transparent appeals process &oversight, it's a tangible way forward

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        3. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
          Replying to @noUpside @zeynep and

          this new Board thing they're putting together seems designed to provide oversight for the "but who decides on Terms of Service?" concern, so there too there's at least a tangible step forward.

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