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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @zeynep @noUpside @benedictevans

      Not that the old model was perfect, but we worked on it to make it less worse. And since we are never going back, we have to figure this one out. I would say being cut off from Facebook is a genuine free speech issue, and Facebook is right that this shouldn’t be just up to them.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @sivavaid @noUpside @benedictevans

      I believe access to audiences is a free speech issue—it’s always been. Free speech has never been only about the right to mumble to yourself. It’s certainly different now in many ways, but the audience question has never been separate from free-speech since we had mass media.

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    4. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @zeynep @sivavaid @benedictevans

      to be clear, I have always been in favor of transparency and an appeals process when it comes to takedowns, and support this new Supreme Court being applied to mediate deplatforming issues. but no, i don't think free speech includes a right to free algorithmic amplification...

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @sivavaid @benedictevans

      So what happens, then, if, say Facebook decides not to algorithmically amplify Elizabeth Warren, and only Elizabeth Warren? Tough for her? Maybe she can get around that? What if it is a small-scale candidate, just starting out—career quietly dies down?

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    6. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @zeynep @sivavaid @benedictevans

      do you think the process by which posts make it into the feed is in some way biased against specific ideas or people? i am all for more research and getting more data out on that, but based on what we have, this has never happened.

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    7. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @zeynep and

      there were definitely decisions made to tamp down on virality around hoaxes - ie, the Pelosi shallowfake - which are somehow now being recast as "stifling freedom of speech" as if that virality is owed.

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    8. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @zeynep and

      politicians being primarily social-first for audience building is what, 2 elections old? and only for some. huge majority were still deploying majority of ad spend to broadcast TV and radio ads, IIRC.https://www.kantarmedia.com/us/newsroom/press-releases/kantar-forecasts6-billion-in-political-ad-spending-for-2019-2020-election-cycle …

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    9. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @zeynep and

      (2 presidential election cycles, which is clearly more than 2 elections, sorry that was imprecise)

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @noUpside @sivavaid @benedictevans

      Facebook feed, like any engagement-optimized algorithm, seems to disproportionately amplify things that promote in-group bonding, out-group conflict, “aaaaw” stuff, novelty (fakish news is novel!) and anger. That’s a very specific kind of bias, and it’s socially centrifugal.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @zeynep @noUpside and

      It doesn’t map onto conservative/liberal bias in traditional mass media. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/opinion/the-real-bias-built-in-at-facebook.html …

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        2. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
          Replying to @zeynep @sivavaid @benedictevans

          right, I've said as much as well and we agree on all of that.

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        3. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside 18 Oct 2019
          Replying to @noUpside @zeynep and

          there is not, afaict, any epidemic of deplatforming. most accounts that are booted have fallen afoul of a ToS requirement (which is non-ideological). but in this thread I'm now reading that any ToS is an affront to freedom of speech.

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