It’s a perfectly reasonable assumption: that there is no lawful obligation for them to remove this app. If there were some lawful basis, the presumption would be they would disclose it rather than hide that in their press releases or emails.
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Replying to @sfmnemonic @GlennF and
What law is violated? Hong Kong legislators are on the record saying this app isn’t violating a law. Cook hasn’t said a law was violated. Even the Hong Kong police haven’t made this claim. Honestly, you’re the only person that I ever heard assume there was a lawful obligation.
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Replying to @sfmnemonic @GlennF and
Which law? He is assuming a use—and that assumption is unwarranted—and then claiming this use would make it in violation of Hong Kong law. That’s not a lawful obligation. That’s a string of assumptions that he’s using to make a decision. There is no court order. No law cited.
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Replying to @sfmnemonic @zeynep and
Just want to make sure I'm following this properly:
@sfmnemonic saying@Apple asserts law violated, might be true, so Apple should cite the legal authority?@zeynep saying there can be no legal authority for this in Hong Kong so any claim of violation of law necessarily false?2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @laurenceb @sfmnemonic and
No the opposite. Hong Kong has a mostly independent judiciary, still, and clear laws. Just like the US, someone needs to cite a law here or refer to a legal process before you can talk of lawful obligation. Legislators in charge of IT are on the record. saying no such law.
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Fine someone cite it then! It is clearly the obligation of the person invoking to the law to tell us which one it is. Due process isn’t “I hinted at a non-disclosed law so you have to assume it exists and there was a process.” The obligation is on the person invoking and acting!
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