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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    4. Glenn Fleishman‏Verified account @GlennF 11 Oct 2019
      Replying to @sfmnemonic @zeynep and

      Right, but when asked, no official or authority stated there was a law that was violated. Apple couldn't or didn't cite a law. The police and authorities don't claim they made a request. Whatever the rule of law Apple might claim to follow, it's 100% opaque and misleading.

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    6. Glenn Fleishman‏Verified account @GlennF 11 Oct 2019
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      Glenn Fleishman Retweeted Charles Mok 莫乃光

      If I didn't say that, why impute it? But no law has been cited, no criminal activity shown. See https://twitter.com/TMclaughlin3/status/1182301330339184641 … and https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-apple/apple-pulls-police-tracking-app-used-by-hong-kong-protesters-after-consulting-authorities-idUSKBN1WP09U … and BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50009971 … HK legislator doesn't agree law broken:https://twitter.com/charlesmok/status/1182336160611201024 …

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      Charles Mok 莫乃光Verified account @charlesmok
      Today I wrote to Tim Cook, CEO of Apple, to tell him his company’s decision to remove HKmap live app from Appstore will cause problems for normal Hong Kong’s citizens trying to avoid police presence while they are under constant fear ofpolice brutality. Values over profits, pls! pic.twitter.com/guaBfV8Pnf
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    7. Glenn Fleishman‏Verified account @GlennF 11 Oct 2019
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      Apple is not acting according to its stated principles. Whether Cook is lying or not, I can’t tell. However, given Apple says they follow local laws, it would be good to know under what authority and what laws they are removing the app. For transparency.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Oct 2019
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      It’s a perfectly reasonable assumption: that there is no lawful obligation for them to remove this app. If there were some lawful basis, the presumption would be they would disclose it rather than hide that in their press releases or emails.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Oct 2019
      Replying to @sfmnemonic @GlennF and

      What law is violated? Hong Kong legislators are on the record saying this app isn’t violating a law. Cook hasn’t said a law was violated. Even the Hong Kong police haven’t made this claim. Honestly, you’re the only person that I ever heard assume there was a lawful obligation.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Oct 2019
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          Which law? He is assuming a use—and that assumption is unwarranted—and then claiming this use would make it in violation of Hong Kong law. That’s not a lawful obligation. That’s a string of assumptions that he’s using to make a decision. There is no court order. No law cited.

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