Skip to content
  • Home Home Home, current page.
  • Moments Moments Moments, current page.

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Language: English
    • Bahasa Indonesia
    • Bahasa Melayu
    • Català
    • Čeština
    • Dansk
    • Deutsch
    • English UK
    • Español
    • Filipino
    • Français
    • Hrvatski
    • Italiano
    • Magyar
    • Nederlands
    • Norsk
    • Polski
    • Português
    • Română
    • Slovenčina
    • Suomi
    • Svenska
    • Tiếng Việt
    • Türkçe
    • Ελληνικά
    • Български език
    • Русский
    • Српски
    • Українська мова
    • עִבְרִית
    • العربية
    • فارسی
    • मराठी
    • हिन्दी
    • বাংলা
    • ગુજરાતી
    • தமிழ்
    • ಕನ್ನಡ
    • ภาษาไทย
    • 한국어
    • 日本語
    • 简体中文
    • 繁體中文
  • Have an account? Log in
    Have an account?
    · Forgot password?

    New to Twitter?
    Sign up
zeynep's profile
zeynep tufekci
zeynep tufekci
zeynep tufekci
Verified account
@zeynep

Tweets

zeynep tufekciVerified account

@zeynep

Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

floating in a most peculiar way
theinsight.org
Joined August 2009

Tweets

  • © 2022 Twitter
  • About
  • Help Center
  • Terms
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies
  • Ads info
Dismiss
Previous
Next

Go to a person's profile

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @

Promote this Tweet

Block

  • Tweet with a location

    You can add location information to your Tweets, such as your city or precise location, from the web and via third-party applications. You always have the option to delete your Tweet location history. Learn more

    Your lists

    Create a new list


    Under 100 characters, optional

    Privacy

    Copy link to Tweet

    Embed this Tweet

    Embed this Video

    Add this Tweet to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Add this video to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Hmm, there was a problem reaching the server.

    By embedding Twitter content in your website or app, you are agreeing to the Twitter Developer Agreement and Developer Policy.

    Preview

    Why you're seeing this ad

    Log in to Twitter

    · Forgot password?
    Don't have an account? Sign up »

    Sign up for Twitter

    Not on Twitter? Sign up, tune into the things you care about, and get updates as they happen.

    Sign up
    Have an account? Log in »

    Two-way (sending and receiving) short codes:

    Country Code For customers of
    United States 40404 (any)
    Canada 21212 (any)
    United Kingdom 86444 Vodafone, Orange, 3, O2
    Brazil 40404 Nextel, TIM
    Haiti 40404 Digicel, Voila
    Ireland 51210 Vodafone, O2
    India 53000 Bharti Airtel, Videocon, Reliance
    Indonesia 89887 AXIS, 3, Telkomsel, Indosat, XL Axiata
    Italy 4880804 Wind
    3424486444 Vodafone
    » See SMS short codes for other countries

    Confirmation

     

    Welcome home!

    This timeline is where you’ll spend most of your time, getting instant updates about what matters to you.

    Tweets not working for you?

    Hover over the profile pic and click the Following button to unfollow any account.

    Say a lot with a little

    When you see a Tweet you love, tap the heart — it lets the person who wrote it know you shared the love.

    Spread the word

    The fastest way to share someone else’s Tweet with your followers is with a Retweet. Tap the icon to send it instantly.

    Join the conversation

    Add your thoughts about any Tweet with a Reply. Find a topic you’re passionate about, and jump right in.

    Learn the latest

    Get instant insight into what people are talking about now.

    Get more of what you love

    Follow more accounts to get instant updates about topics you care about.

    Find what's happening

    See the latest conversations about any topic instantly.

    Never miss a Moment

    Catch up instantly on the best stories happening as they unfold.

    1. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @zeynep

      What are some examples of points that were debunked?

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      The whole who joins movements part. Not at all found in actual research. None of the typologies hold. Practically the whole book. It’s just a eloquent guy ranting. Maybe you could say there are some insights of sorts into perhaps cults, kind of? Not movements.

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    3. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @zeynep

      I'd love to check out some of the debunking papers! Can you link me to a paper or two on the topic of who joins movements?

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Derek Thompson‏Verified account @DKThomp 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @Noahpinion @zeynep

      seconded! i love this topic. i would guess that "who joins movements" changes as the movement evolves. early social movements might attract radicals when the cause itself is radical, but for any movement to succeed it eventually has to win over the less radical majority

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Derek Thompson‏Verified account @DKThomp 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @DKThomp @Noahpinion @zeynep

      that is: i'd guess the sort of person who supports gay marriage in 1985 is really different from the lawyer who signs an amicus brief for the Supreme Court case in 2015 ... but they're both parts of the movement

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @DKThomp @Noahpinion

      His description of early radicals is off, too. People who supported gay marriage in 1985 weren’t senseless fanatics, just marginalized. And the gay movement radicalization in the face of the AIDS catastrophe is very rational. Movement people aren’t irrational fanatics in general.

      1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
    7. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @zeynep @DKThomp

      Hmm, this sounds more like a competing value judgment than a "debunking". I'd love to see some actual research papers on the topic of personality profiles of people who join mass movements! I can hunt around for links on Google Scholar...

      1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
    8. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @Noahpinion @zeynep @DKThomp

      Note that while Hoffer characterizes movement-joiners as people who need to fill a personal void in their own lives, this doesn't mean he thinks movements are bad things -- indeed, he sees them as necessary for fixing failing societies.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @Noahpinion @zeynep @DKThomp

      Also, just as a random side note, "spherical cow in space" is actually a great model for many things. It's how we send spacecraft to other planets! I wish people would stop using it as an example of a model that doesn't work, because it works insanely well... ;-)

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @Noahpinion @DKThomp

      Spherically cow might work for spacecraft! But people’s motivations can be found by talking or looking at behavior, and in any large movement it’s social political and cultural things—rather than fanaticism he describes. I say this for movements I personally don’t like as well.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Sep 2019
      Replying to @zeynep @Noahpinion @DKThomp

      And it’s kind of fun telling you that sociologists find people a lot more rational than assumed in that book, and an economist would like to think they are just filling psychological voids. Haha

      9:17 AM - 30 Sep 2019
      • 4 Likes
      • Lucrezia Borgia Emilyrobin Derek Thompson Noah Smith 🐇
      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        1. New conversation
        2. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 30 Sep 2019
          Replying to @zeynep @DKThomp

          It's interesting that you think I "would like" to think this. In fact, I don't have a preference, and would just like to know how things really work! :-)

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. next_ghost  💉 💉 💉‏ @next_ghost_cz 30 Sep 2019
          Replying to @Noahpinion @zeynep @DKThomp

          Then you might want to look at @zeynep's own book on the topic: https://www.twitterandteargas.org/ 

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. End of conversation

      Loading seems to be taking a while.

      Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.

        Promoted Tweet

        false

        • © 2022 Twitter
        • About
        • Help Center
        • Terms
        • Privacy policy
        • Cookies
        • Ads info