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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Sep 2019

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      Scary state of the "security advice" sector. This person who gets funding to provide security advice/training to activists has no idea about the *standard* police warning flag in Hong Kong and thinks it's a protester tactic. Such ignorance would be funny if it weren't dangerous. https://twitter.com/roryireland/status/1165270513792557063 …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Sep 2019

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Yudhanjaya Wijeratne  🎭

      Yep. I normally try to be extra polite on Twitter, and I've had it with years and years of quietly trying to get the security advice gravy train people/sector to start being accountable. STOP. GIVING. ADVICE. WHEN. YOU. OBVIOUSLY. HAVE. NO. IDEA.https://twitter.com/yudhanjaya/status/1169304790574092289 …

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      Yudhanjaya Wijeratne  🎭 @yudhanjaya
      THIS. Lots of people, particularly Western journalists and 'security analysts', are building careers for themselves by going no further than reading a few random tweets. (This is also how we have 'Sri Lanka experts' in the Guardian). Talk with people on the ground or GTFO. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1169068359234646016 …
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Sep 2019

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      For example, people who've been at a tear-gassed protest anywhere—especially in Hong Kong: How many of these overly complicated hand signals do you think are in routine use and that they routinely use a signal for"run" which is almost identical to wrench? https://twitter.com/roryireland/status/1157309285988216832 …

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    4. Gerry Doyle‏ @mgerrydoyle 4 Sep 2019
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      some of the gesture-related stuff is real, or was earlier on before police got quite so violent: https://graphics.reuters.com/HONGKONG-EXTRADITIONS-TACTICS/0100B0790FL/index.html …

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    5. Gerry Doyle‏ @mgerrydoyle 4 Sep 2019
      Replying to @mgerrydoyle @zeynep

      but yeah, the rest of this thread is right on the money. bad advice from experts is worse than no advice

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Sep 2019
      Replying to @mgerrydoyle

      The gesture use on the ground is also nowhere similar to that Reuters article.

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    7. Gerry Doyle‏ @mgerrydoyle 4 Sep 2019
      Replying to @zeynep

      well, like I said--at one point it was, and there are video examples therein

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Sep 2019
      Replying to @mgerrydoyle

      There are lots of videos of many things. Not a reliable way to figure things out because media is drawn to picturesque things even if it’s mostly irrelevant. They still use hand signals but not like that document at all.pic.twitter.com/utsA07oIgg

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        2. Gerry Doyle‏ @mgerrydoyle 4 Sep 2019
          Replying to @zeynep

          the story wasn't "figured out" via video. it was reported on the ground from hong kong, and again, it's from mid-july, almost two months ago

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Sep 2019
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          And I’m saying most journalists don’t report about protests well at all. They exaggerate irrelevant/small things and write long stories about them that make them seem important—especially if they seem novel. Real understanding requires context/scale. Few reporters good at that.

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