Scary state of the "security advice" sector. This person who gets funding to provide security advice/training to activists has no idea about the *standard* police warning flag in Hong Kong and thinks it's a protester tactic. Such ignorance would be funny if it weren't dangerous. https://twitter.com/roryireland/status/1165270513792557063 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Yudhanjaya Wijeratne 🎭
Yep. I normally try to be extra polite on Twitter, and I've had it with years and years of quietly trying to get the security advice gravy train people/sector to start being accountable. STOP. GIVING. ADVICE. WHEN. YOU. OBVIOUSLY. HAVE. NO. IDEA.https://twitter.com/yudhanjaya/status/1169304790574092289 …
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Yudhanjaya Wijeratne 🎭 @yudhanjayaTHIS. Lots of people, particularly Western journalists and 'security analysts', are building careers for themselves by going no further than reading a few random tweets. (This is also how we have 'Sri Lanka experts' in the Guardian). Talk with people on the ground or GTFO. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1169068359234646016 …1 reply 29 retweets 152 likesShow this thread -
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For example, people who've been at a tear-gassed protest anywhere—especially in Hong Kong: How many of these overly complicated hand signals do you think are in routine use and that they routinely use a signal for"run" which is almost identical to wrench? https://twitter.com/roryireland/status/1157309285988216832 …
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One problem with this is kind of copypasta expertise is that it leads to a kind of of fetishization. On the surface, it's flattering "oh, look at amazing tactics" but hides the very very real vulnerability that's obvious on the ground. Hong Kong's youth deserve better than this.
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If you do not know about the police flag that's used in EVERY DARN PROTEST and think it's some sort of protester tactic to warn about tear gas, be quiet about Hong Kong tactics or security advice. There are many other ways to make money or get grants that doesn't endanger people.
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I’m sorry about the fantasies, but the young people in Hong Kong are basically doing what young people around the world have done to demand freedom. They’re putting their bodies on the line. They’re getting their bones broken, their heads bashed in and their futures threatened.
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I have unfortunately observed this for years in the security-industrial complex It’s like a version of the geek disease. People think they’re smart and well-meaning therefore can comment about everything else. It’s just not true. And my years of quiet begging have gone nowhere.
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I’m not talking about getting a few details wrong. We all get stuff wrong. I’m talking about the arrogance of commenting and even taking grants to provide advice on situations completely out of one’s area of expertise, knowledge, or fieldwork. First. Hire. Or. Listen. To. Locals.
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But you obviously don’t do that. Nobody local would confuse a police flag with a protester tactic. Your compiled document is mostly copypasta lala land. When I told you this before, you just asked me to DM you to fix your things for you. You don’t realize how terrible this is?
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I asked you to suggest which bits you had issues with and said I would fix (or something to that effect) and you refused I think?
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Please fix all the problems with my copy and paste so I can then copy and paste.
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