Decades of research shows job training programs don't work at scale because of lack of *supply* of appropriate good jobs. There are always nice learned-to-code stories (I'm one: started coding as a kid and it literally saved my life) but those don't scale.https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/12/us/mined-minds-west-virginia-coding.html …
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I have actually witnessed (very well-meaning!) tech volunteers decide to teach, I kid you not, Linux, to recent immigrants with maybe a passing level of literacy in Spanish, let alone English. Why Linux? It's open source, unlike evil proprietary software. Anyway, *laughs* *cries*
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Replying to @zeynep @MarkCGrim
I am a volunteer instructor teaching computer skills to recent immigrants who didn't even know how to use a mouse can be done Everybody can be a genius if you spend enough time in a topic
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I told them if I want to play basketball like Michael Jordan, I would have to practice 12 hours a day for the next 10 years I teach my immigrant students who can barely speak English, mostly mothers who also worked at least one job, far different then my college students
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Examples of students' works: A letter that required them to type the letter, format, and email as an attachment A flyerpic.twitter.com/I3deGwRdUS
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This was done on 4/9/2019, first day of class was on 2/12/2019
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Replying to @Zentwittee @MarkCGrim
That's fine, and good for you for volunteering. These are very basic skills everyone should have. What do you think are the job prospects and pay for the ability to type an format a document and attach it to an email?
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Replying to @zeynep @MarkCGrim
The jobs are office clerk, data entry, receptionist, etc, or other skilled professional such as medical supports that required further training Shown they can learn highly complex tasks using a computer in 2 months, & can be taught to do programming I bet you can't do the flyer
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Replying to @Zentwittee @MarkCGrim
Your assertions are refuted by research, job stats and even common sense. I've done long-term follow-up with immigrant trainees with exact such skills looking for exact such jobs (part of dissertation). Not a single one landed such a job, and they weren't even in Appalachia
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The idea that the ability to put together a flyer opens up jobs to immigrants, let alone well-paying jobs, at any real scale (you can find examples but not at scale) is just false. It's still good to teach and have such skills. It's not a path to jobs. Also not a path to coding.
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As someone trained many of the 1st gen Asians in the
#SiliconValley in the 1990s, most had never touch a computer, a few couldn't tell a toaster from computer, one was a bank teller in his homeland They are now in c-suites and dominated the#SiliconValley and#tech0 replies 0 retweets 0 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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