Decades of research shows job training programs don't work at scale because of lack of *supply* of appropriate good jobs. There are always nice learned-to-code stories (I'm one: started coding as a kid and it literally saved my life) but those don't scale.https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/12/us/mined-minds-west-virginia-coding.html …
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Was it a Bootcamp ? Bootcamps alone tend to fall short.
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They had a 16 week programming training program but they failed to offer apprenticeships and job opportunities for the graduates. They were promised they could all be developers in a place were coal mining was the main job. Even though they got government funding ...
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16 weeks is not enough for significant job placement, much less at scale.
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More appropriate would be
@holbertonschool In-person Full-time 60 hours a week, 9 Months + 6 Month Internship + 9 Month specialization. School only gets paid when and if the students get placed at a high income job. Otherwise students don't pay.@julienbarbier421 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
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Yep. Fundamentally, our whole model ties our success to student success, and we train our students in programming & the skills to maintain their knowledge. The result? 100% of our graduates are hired in 3 months at an average starting salary of $108K: https://bit.ly/2vJxvga
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The problem with that model is that it works for people who can put in 60 hours a week for nine months. I mean, it's great for that person so no objection there. But that just can't and won't scale. That's already a very-well supported person, with a lot of resources and freedom.
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If it’s within the conversation regarding Appalachian case, government funds could have been used to provide sustenance budget. School doesn’t charge tuition and takes the risk with the student.
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Yes, ideally, you have to actually pay people during the training period (if they had that much reserves and no issues attending intense training, they probably need you the least). Childcare or friendly hours also helps. Otherwise either creaming or setting up to fail.
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Under such a scenario, with loan-repayment tied to well-paying job attained, much more feasible and incentives are aligned better. For sure, the students want to succeed and get that higher-paying job but can't be climbing greasy pole or pretending SF-coding jobs attainable.
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