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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 May 2019

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      That’s as if I told you to make a living, you’d only have to learn how to fly trapeze and be willing to travel full-time with the circus. Same level of realism! Hey, some people do it, amiright? https://twitter.com/jbraunstein914/status/1127956876832808960 …

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    4. Kim A. Bøe‏ @kimaboe 13 May 2019
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      So, you’re saying that the white people who were privileged enough to afford the trip from Europe made it, the rest were stuck and suffered. Not counting the millions who failed to find the promised fortune, and had to work for years just to afford the return ticket, of course.

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    6. Kim A. Bøe‏ @kimaboe 13 May 2019
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      If they could afford to relocate, and were able to take their families, they were by definition more privileged than those who did not. But I'm pretty much just making fun of your weird comparison between the people in the article and European peasants from the 1800s.

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    7. Kim A. Bøe‏ @kimaboe 13 May 2019
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      The article is about people who were promised skills and local jobs, they received neither. Saying "they aren't willing to relocate" is missing the point by a cross-atlantic steamer trip when they never learned to code in the first place.

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    8. Kim A. Bøe‏ @kimaboe 13 May 2019
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      But either way, the fact of the matter is, once you are in your late 30s or 40s, with children who have friends or families of their own, you no longer have the mobility to move across country for a entry-level job. Poor or not it is not a smart decision.

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    10. Kim A. Bøe‏ @kimaboe 13 May 2019
      Replying to @jbraunstein914 @zeynep

      The thing is, there are a lot of jobs that could have been created with the money the state gave the bootcamp folks. Good quality jobs. There are people there, strengthen the public sector, hire a teacher for their kids, invest in culture, give people a reason to stick around.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 May 2019
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      That's right. No reason we cannot create good jobs doing much-needed things where these people are and pay well. Once things are on a better track, there might be all sorts of new industries there, too. People cannot make in SF (SF!) in their forties after one coding bootcamp.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 May 2019
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          I have a PhD and a coding background and an affinity/liking for math, and I don't know if I could actually eke out a living in SF with a remotely tolerable commute if I were dumped there today as a Ms. Nobody without a giant savings cushion and networks.

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