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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

      Decades of research shows job training programs don't work at scale because of lack of *supply* of appropriate good jobs. There are always nice learned-to-code stories (I'm one: started coding as a kid and it literally saved my life) but those don't scale.https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/12/us/mined-minds-west-virginia-coding.html …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

      I have seen many, many "teach computers to poor people" efforts over the year and studied them in my disseration. My most common observation is that they are wasting people's time and should just give people the money directly. Focus should be on living wage for realistic jobs.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

      I don't discount the occasional success story, and I think there are a significant number of reasonable online resources for the few people who might be inclined & actually able to take this path. It just isn't a realistic path out of poverty in places like the one in this piece.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

      I've seen "teach-them-code" efforts run by grifters. I've seen them them run by very well meaning people. I think there is some value in coding bootcamps, especially already well-positioned people to switch careers. It just isn't and won't ever be a way out of poverty at scale.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

      Meanwhile, I'm about to visit a family now homeless after the dad had an accident at work requiring surgery and time off work. That's it. Family tumbled into homelessness. Living wages plus healthcare, not false hope, is what this country needs. Look for the gofundme soon, sigh.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

      Oh the lack of healthcare in this country! One work injury to the dad, and this family fell into homelessness. Living out of their van. The kids are so tired at school. 😢 Help us raise funds to get them back into regular housing and back on their feet.https://www.gofundme.com/f/1mwcyeidhc 

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 May 2019

      Less than $2,000 to go. Yesterday, they moved out of their van (yeay!) into a temporary housing solution. We have longer term options lined up, too. Note mom is already working but still can't affort housing. We just need to get them through a few months.https://www.gofundme.com/1mwcyeidhc 

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 May 2019

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      That’s as if I told you to make a living, you’d only have to learn how to fly trapeze and be willing to travel full-time with the circus. Same level of realism! Hey, some people do it, amiright? https://twitter.com/jbraunstein914/status/1127956876832808960 …

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        1. M. Fioretti‏ @mfioretti_en 13 May 2019
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          heck, we had never thought that all those people drowning in Mediterranean to reach Italy could just be all top level programmers aiming to build the next #Siliconvalley in Rome. What fools we have been, have we not?

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        1. logan  🦔‏ @logich 13 May 2019
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          I’ve lived nearly 20 years away from family and where I grew up. It is a really hard trade off and one that I don’t think people should have to make for a job. For years my family didn’t understand why I couldn’t just move back home where there were limited tech jobs and pay.

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        1. Erwotin Reotar‏ @eoinmonkey 13 May 2019
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          Children should be seen and not heard, especially on complex socio-economic matters.

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        1. next_ghost  💉 💉 💉‏ @next_ghost_cz 13 May 2019
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          Problem: Appalachia is in economic decline Solution: Teach everybody to code and help them move where the jobs are (not in Appalachia) Result: Appalachia is now declining even faster 🤷‍♂️

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        1. John Cleary‏ @jaysee_au 13 May 2019
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          It’s scary how much of the American psyche is still based in the Wild West.

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        1. Todd R. Johnson‏ @johnsontoddr4 17 May 2019
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          There is also clear age discrimination even for those who can code and are willing to relocate. I have many older students who have relayed their stories to me.

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