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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

    Decades of research shows job training programs don't work at scale because of lack of *supply* of appropriate good jobs. There are always nice learned-to-code stories (I'm one: started coding as a kid and it literally saved my life) but those don't scale.https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/12/us/mined-minds-west-virginia-coding.html …

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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

        I have seen many, many "teach computers to poor people" efforts over the year and studied them in my disseration. My most common observation is that they are wasting people's time and should just give people the money directly. Focus should be on living wage for realistic jobs.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

        I don't discount the occasional success story, and I think there are a significant number of reasonable online resources for the few people who might be inclined & actually able to take this path. It just isn't a realistic path out of poverty in places like the one in this piece.

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

        I've seen "teach-them-code" efforts run by grifters. I've seen them them run by very well meaning people. I think there is some value in coding bootcamps, especially already well-positioned people to switch careers. It just isn't and won't ever be a way out of poverty at scale.

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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

        Meanwhile, I'm about to visit a family now homeless after the dad had an accident at work requiring surgery and time off work. That's it. Family tumbled into homelessness. Living wages plus healthcare, not false hope, is what this country needs. Look for the gofundme soon, sigh.

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      6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

        Oh the lack of healthcare in this country! One work injury to the dad, and this family fell into homelessness. Living out of their van. The kids are so tired at school. 😢 Help us raise funds to get them back into regular housing and back on their feet.https://www.gofundme.com/f/1mwcyeidhc 

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      7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 May 2019

        Also, if Dany was going to lose her mind, she could have *flown* directly to Red Keep. Can’t believe dragons flying around burning stuff became a timefiller. I recommend helping this family not live in a van anymore to help stop thinking about plot holes.https://www.gofundme.com/1mwcyeidhc 

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      2. Peter Merholz‏ @peterme 12 May 2019
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        But a VC told me that anyone who knows how to code or design has a 0% chance of being homeless. I’m confused. Are you suggesting a VC may be incorrect in their assessment?

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      3. "mjfshoulderdemon"‏ @mjfgates 12 May 2019
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        Considering that the entire VC business model is "we're going to back stuff that doesn't work 90% of the time"... maybe.

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      1. Sky in the Grass‏ @skyinthegrass 12 May 2019
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        Have you given thought to joining GaslitNation? Just for a day?

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      1. Farooq Butt‏ @fmbutt 12 May 2019
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        People who think that corporations can solve everything by themselves are always surprised when it's much harder than a TED Talk. What we badly need is a public-private alliance that helps support these efforts when they are tiny shoots but that would involve believing in govt.

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