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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2019

    Can you imagine a world in which drugs or interventions are routinely not tested on men *at all* because not menstruating might effect the results? "Hi! We did not test this on half the population because they are half the population!" 😡 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/well/move/why-does-exercise-guard-against-cancer-inflammation-may-play-a-role.html …pic.twitter.com/yiAWSnTNqn

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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2019

        We need Title IX for scientific research. If your study design casually excludes half of of humanity, go back and change your design unless, as happens rarely, it's actually necessary for the subject of the study (like studying prostate cancer). No women, no funding for research.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2019

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        Right, let's systematically eliminate men from scientific studies as "confounders" and see how far that gets.https://twitter.com/solimar2016/status/1120676334072549377 …

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        In a study this small, you have to eliminate as many possible confounders as possible. This isn't sexist; it's good research.
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      2. Ioannis K. Erripis‏ @erripis 23 Apr 2019
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        That depends on the drug, intervention and method. It's not sexist per se

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Apr 2019
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        It's sexist per se unless there is a very good reason, and there almost never is.

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      2. Solimar‏ @solimar2016 23 Apr 2019
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        In a study this small, you have to eliminate as many possible confounders as possible. This isn't sexist; it's good research.

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      3. Shane Liesegang, SJ (شَيْن)‏ @OptimistPanda 23 Apr 2019
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        It’s not good research, either — the same thing that makes menstruation a “confounder” could substantially impact how the drug works in people who menstruate, and not being aware of those differences can lead to dangerous uses when the drug is eventually approved for the gen-pop.

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      1. Alyssa B.‏ @Fleurdelyssa 23 Apr 2019
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        It’s sloppy research and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the body. The average age of diagnosis for colon cancer in women is 72. Those women aren’t menstruating any more.

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      1. Jody Shenn‏ @JodyShenn 23 Apr 2019
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        As I’m guessing you’d agree, a bit of the problem here is also that this may be fine for a study (as one step in the research process), but not for the one study that gets written up in the New York Times

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      1. Ben Rosengart‏ @fivetonsflax 23 Apr 2019
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        That rationale is so thin, it seems more of a rationalization.

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