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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Mar 2019

      Reminder for plans to terraform(!) Mars. $200 million in expenditures plus monthly secret deliveries plus emergency oxygen pumping plus letting the people in and out as necessary couldn't make a sealed biosphere work .. on Earth! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/sunday-review/biosphere-2-climate-change.html …pic.twitter.com/qXx9LNwIzX

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Mar 2019

      Colonizing Mars is back-of-envelope out of the question as in so obvious that it hurts but when you have billions to spend, people don't tell you that or maybe you don't have to listen, I guess? Meanwhile, planet Earth, which can actually sustain life kinda needs attention. 🤷‍♀️

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Mar 2019

          I mean, don't get me wrong. I like my science fiction and what-if books and will even read scenarios. Fun! But it's such an example of the new gilded-age induced extreme stupidity that lots of smart people will go along as if it has anything to do with reality. That, and Juicero.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Mar 2019

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          I'm all for basic research that may or may not have side benefits. But that's an honest conversation. The point here is that a few people have tons of money and are smart in one domain but are marks in another. I'm otherwise okay even with make-work.https://twitter.com/TristanSevers/status/1111656552874704896 …

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          Azathoth Liberation Front @TristanSevers
          Any serious thinker instantly notices all tech breakthroughs needed to make Mars inhabitable would have huge applications for resource conservation on Earth as well. Not noticing this is a huge tell that for the speaker, "muh environment" is just a frame story for Tyranny Porn. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1111619117876957184 …
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Mar 2019
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          Send more Rovers!

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        1. Limited Perspective‏ @laprice 29 Mar 2019
          Replying to @zeynep

          If you want the full dose of Biosphere 2 crazy; Steve Bannon was involved in the project. He clearly did not learn some important lessons.

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        2. Paul Guinnessy‏ @PaulGuinnessy 29 Mar 2019
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          I was lucky enough to visit Biosphere 2 before they sealed it. It was an incredibly ambitious project that was destined to fail at its main tasks, but the smaller set ups they had, taught us a lot about closed systems. & why Earth is so important. There is no backup.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Mar 2019
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          That is exactly the lesson!

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        1. M.S. Bellows, Jr.‏ @msbellows 29 Mar 2019
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          But... but... Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy!

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        1. James Bowery‏ @jabowery 29 Mar 2019
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          Musk swallowed Zubrin's poison pill. Ignore Musk. Bezos has a different vision. Check it out.

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        1. Martian Orthodox‏ @MartianOrthodox 11 Apr 2019
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          $200M is nothing. Try it with $200B and let's see. This is a matter of 'want to', not 'can't'.

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