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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 20 Dec 2018

      Nate Silver Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      So there were.... 3 mainstream media articles, out the many TENS OF THOUSANDS of articles published on the 2016 campaign, that embedded Russian troll tweets? I'm afraid that's not really helping your argument.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1075845985182441472 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538
      There were many many examples like this. Troll accounts pushed narratives and succeded often enough, which then gave way to further organic spread because there's a feedback loop here. https://twitter.com/JodyShenn/status/1075837885541171200 …
      58 replies 61 retweets 457 likes
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2018
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      Yes, that's exactly my argument, right? Three troll tweets is all there is, and that plausibly swung a close election. 🙄Let me know if you want to argue against a stronger strawperson and I'll get back to it.

      3 replies 2 retweets 119 likes
    3. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 20 Dec 2018
      Replying to @zeynep

      Your argument is lacking in any sort of systematic evidence, at all. If you think impression counts are an imperfect measure -- and surely they are -- then come up with something better.

      7 replies 2 retweets 38 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2018
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      The mere count and placement of DNC hack stories, alone, would be a pretty strong metric. It dominated media plus displaced other stuff. As with anything complex, it's a complex story but just that one is their operation—though obviously "the patient" had very weak immune system.

      1 reply 3 retweets 35 likes
    5. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 20 Dec 2018
      Replying to @zeynep

      You're -- deliberately? -- confusing two things. The DNC hack could well have been important. There's no evidence that Russian shitposts on Instagram mattered much, though.

      5 replies 0 retweets 25 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2018
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      Not separable. The DNC hack was very much supported by massive operation on social media. It was almost all you'd see in some corners, mostly as screenshots with false claims that went viral. Plus, yep, mass media got played. Hence my call for looking at ecology, not percentages.

      12:43 PM - 20 Dec 2018
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        2. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 20 Dec 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          I put "you have to look at the whole ecology" into my Google Academese translator and it came out as "I don't have any evidence".

          17 replies 3 retweets 42 likes
        3. North.‏ @TheMainstand 20 Dec 2018
          Replying to @NateSilver538 @zeynep

          > be less of a dick about this @NateSilver538

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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