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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 20 Dec 2018

      Nate Silver Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      This is getting dangerously close to an unfalsifiable hypothesis. If reporters hugely amplified narratives put forward by Russian trolls, let's see some actual *evidence* of that.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1075835506842202112 …

      Nate Silver added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      A topic that just doesn't lend itself to such isolated statistical analyses. That's not how culture or politics operates. Take the 0.1% at face value. Example: What if that led reporters to amplify narratives which colored the whole election? (I think that happened in parts). https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1074848968188796930 …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2018
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      DNC hack+surrounding info-ops—yes, media is part of it but that's my point. "Bernie-bro" stories—amplified by faux "Bernie bros" deliberately harrassing journos. Those alone are enough to plausibly result in a different president. (Yes so are many other factors. Close election).

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jody Shenn

      There were many many examples like this. Troll accounts pushed narratives and succeded often enough, which then gave way to further organic spread because there's a feedback loop here.https://twitter.com/JodyShenn/status/1075837885541171200 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jody Shenn @JodyShenn
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      E.g. pic.twitter.com/KlqoYQN2x0
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538

      Point is, you can't get any of this by looking at percent of tweets/social media posts made directly by professional RU troll accounts—which is what I'm objecting to. Can't definitely establish counterfactual causality about past event, but can study how the ecology worked..

      12:12 PM - 20 Dec 2018
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        1. Jody Shenn‏ @JodyShenn 20 Dec 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538

          I wonder if Nate being in the business of measuring something that his own work can influence kinda causes a cognitive dissonance that damages his logic abilities

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        1. Trying to be as good a person as my dog‏ @consDragon64 20 Dec 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538

          100% agree. Too bad there isn’t a site out there that specializes in statistical analysis that could do a deep dive.

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        1. Carter Neal‏ @Cartereneal 20 Dec 2018
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          The desire to quantify and only trust explicitly made connections is a kind of skepticism, and one that Silver has pursued. It’s why his work on discrete events like polls and at-bats is valuable and why his commentary on broader socio-historical or moral issues is weak.

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        1. Shauna‏ @StopWithUrBS 22 Dec 2018
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          Too bad the media didn't pay more attention to these trolls. https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-hillary-clinton-paying-trolls-attack-people-online-article-1.2613980 …

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