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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Dec 2018

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bloomberg

    Question: if you have business dinners with male, but not female colleagues; one-on-one meetings with male ones but not female ones, and on flights talk business with men, but not women: is there no law that bans this as blatant discrimination? (Book your hotel rooms wherever).https://twitter.com/business/status/1070323379398418433 …

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    BloombergVerified account @business
    - No dinners with female colleagues - Don’t sit next to them on flights - Book hotel rooms on different floors - Avoid one-on-one meetings Wall Street's controversial strategies for the #MeToo era are making life even harder for women https://bloom.bg/2EbTAKE 
    9:57 AM - 6 Dec 2018
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    • megan 💐 W. T. AC, and I cannot stress this enough, AB Nicholas McCay Ade Ryou 🦋 Dom Potter Hans Bossenbroek Stan Christiaens
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      1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Dec 2018

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Liminal Susurrations

        Obviously, but I'm asking: if they actually pursue this policy, is there standing to take them to court and make it legally very, very expensive to shut women out like this? If anyone is having one-on-one meetings, everyone should.https://twitter.com/san_surname/status/1070739911358050304 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Liminal Susurrations @san_surname
        Replying to @zeynep
        Wouldn't it be simpler to treat one's colleagues, regardless of gender, with respect and professionalism? You know, as adults *should* interact?
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      2. Liminal Susurrations‏ @san_surname 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @zeynep

        Wouldn't it be simpler to treat one's colleagues, regardless of gender, with respect and professionalism? You know, as adults *should* interact?

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      3. Fularsız Entellik  🐵 Immanuel Tolstoyevski‏ @imTolstoyevski 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @san_surname @zeynep

        I'm pretty sure, someone involved in this whole conversation thought about this. And it's not like they said "respect and professionalism? No fuck that, we prefer to risk discrimination lawsuits instead, even though risk management is precisely how I make a living".

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      1. Bailey McCann‏ @BaileyMcC 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @zeynep

        Struggling to see how this is different from just...being Wall Street? Lessening legal risk seems to be the cover they’d always hoped for.

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      1. Jürgen "jkr" Kraus‏ @jkr_on_the_web 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @zeynep

        All four points can be replaced by a single one: Be A Decent Person. 'Nuff said.

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      2. Kira Schlesinger  ⚖‏ @PhxAtty 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @zeynep @Z_Everson

        Good observation. When I worked in male-dominated law firm, all men would suddenly have to go to the restroom together. Cut me out of the conversation, and - last I checked -men rarely go to the restroom in groups. Lots of subtle ways to discriminate.

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      3. Battles psycho disposable everything capitalism  ☕️‏ @OrganizingHere 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @PhxAtty @zeynep @Z_Everson

        Interesting observation since group restrooming is normally associated with women. Traders will still find a way to get love, and botch it up. Millions of years of human evolution can't be overwritten by flimsy code of conduct paper.

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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @mims

        One attorney says that in the piece, but I'm wondering because these companies obviously have *lots* of attorneys. Is the law not clear-cut enough?

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      1. ** circling back to ** #RecallGavinNewsom‏ @JnKConstituent2 6 Dec 2018
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        Remember when this was what feminists fought against - all of the exclusionary behaviors/practices that prevented women moving up in orgs & being 'one of the boys' making decisions & bonding, esp. socially.

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