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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Nov 2018
      Replying to @stevesi

      In this context it means something specific, and people understand it. Algorithm as a word has moved far beyond computer science contexts.

      4 replies 2 retweets 21 likes
    2. Quentin Hardy‏Verified account @qhardy 18 Nov 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @stevesi

      What is the specific thing it means that people uniformly understand?

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Nov 2018
      Replying to @qhardy @stevesi

      Complex computational decision making that affects them, that’s opaque, not either under their control, accountable or transparent although consequential. It’s not all about how to color a map with four colors with no adjacencies.

      1 reply 1 retweet 37 likes
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Nov 2018
      Replying to @stevesi @qhardy

      The word evolved the way it evolved. It means more than what it meant. A perspectivist critique based on its previous meaning obscures the issue. I run into this all the time with technical people. Objecting to word evolution is both a fight one can’t win, also not useful.

      2 replies 2 retweets 43 likes
    6. Quentin Hardy‏Verified account @qhardy 18 Nov 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @stevesi

      That's funny, I think of you is a technical person. Or at least, one who is technically competent.

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    8. Quentin Hardy‏Verified account @qhardy 18 Nov 2018
      Replying to @stevesi @zeynep

      I suspect the definition in this case includes something like, "run by powerful people who are unchecked and may not have my best interests at heart." which, if so, would be quite a burden to put on one word.

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    9. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 18 Nov 2018
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      I think these concerns map very well onto concerns about databases a generation ago. They might mis-spell your name, or you might share a name with a criminal, and you could never reach a human to override the mistake, and you’d get ground up by people obeying the computer.

      3 replies 1 retweet 20 likes
    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Nov 2018
      Replying to @benedictevans @qhardy @stevesi

      Well there were scary stories about that from back then. It didn’t totally happen that way, but we’ve actually had versions of it ruin lives—an academic accidentally on the no-fly list had career destroyed.

      1 reply 0 retweets 19 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Nov 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @benedictevans and

      I think ML making decisions is more on the money to be scared off, some of the issues are intractable at the moment. I think it’s hard to have just the right nightmare ahead of time but possible to be in the right neighborhood.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Nov 2018
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          *of 😬

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