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    1. Clive Thompson‏Verified account @pomeranian99 28 Sep 2018

      Oh yay, Youtube is once again recommending my middle-school sons watch Prager U videos about how masculinity is under attack by evil feminists. I suppose it's a useful teachable moment for discussing concepts such as "straw-man arguments" ...

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    2. Ben Rosengart‏ @fivetonsflax 28 Sep 2018
      Replying to @pomeranian99

      Does anyone have Google brass on record as to what they're doing about this shit?

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    3. Clive Thompson‏Verified account @pomeranian99 28 Sep 2018
      Replying to @fivetonsflax

      I don't know if anyone has talked about Prager U, no

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    4. Ben Rosengart‏ @fivetonsflax 28 Sep 2018
      Replying to @pomeranian99

      Not that specifically but the tendency of "the algorithm" to push right-wing content of questionable value and truthfulness. Because this is an ongoing scandal and nothing ... ever ... changes.

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    5. Clive Thompson‏Verified account @pomeranian99 28 Sep 2018
      Replying to @fivetonsflax

      There was a good @datasociety report out two weeks ago about reactionary right-wing videos being pushed in Youtube's recommendation system: https://datasociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DS_Alternative_Influence.pdf … It touches briefly on some Prager examples

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    6. Ben Rosengart‏ @fivetonsflax 28 Sep 2018
      Replying to @pomeranian99

      I saw that and read part of it. It's increasingly clear that YouTube's interests diverge from those of its users, and of society in general — and not enough is being done to hold its owners accountable for this.

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    7. Clive Thompson‏Verified account @pomeranian99 28 Sep 2018
      Replying to @fivetonsflax

      I've touched on it in a few Wired pieces in the last year, and been seeing it written about more in other places too. Youtube was mostly ignored during the early focus on Twitter and Facebook, but I think the scrutiny is growing, thanks to folks like @zeynep and @datasociety

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Sep 2018
      Replying to @pomeranian99 @fivetonsflax @datasociety

      I haven't heard from them on the record; but yes I've heard from them. The problem is the root cause of this isn't simple; requires a wholesale organization of some things at a deep level. I don't have predictions.

      5:52 PM - 28 Sep 2018
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        2. Clive Thompson‏Verified account @pomeranian99 28 Sep 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @fivetonsflax @datasociety

          Yes, that makes sense. The reasons this stuff gets surfaced like this has many many elements ...

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        3. Ben Rosengart‏ @fivetonsflax 28 Sep 2018
          Replying to @pomeranian99 @zeynep @datasociety

          I have seen Google tackle complex problems very effectively. I’m confident they can handle this — if they want to.

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