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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      Now, of course, this is a hard problem. The same affordances that allow a zillion people to say stupid things at once also allow for funny/fun/important stuff. I'm aware of that. But there should be a way to mute "fruits-of-a-quote-tweet" and/or control embedding/quote tweeting.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      It's a funny game. Last time I wrote about gender/phone size, it was a bit tongue-in-check, but also real. At the outlet, we got paid bonuses based on traffic. Some "men's rights" forums seized on it and my traffic shot up. I was like, umm. Thanks? Distorted incentive alignment.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      Finally, I'll check but I don't think I received a single useful suggestion/conversation from quote tweets. Many who follow me know how much work I do about journalist/dissident security and understand that I'm not complaining because I can't figure out something for myself.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      Unlike replies, the quote tweet takes the whole thing out of context and encourages a barrage of random strangers to make the same mind-numbingly boring and repetitive comments. IMO the quote tweet should be modified. It's not a positive conversation-enhancer in its current form.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      Also: Facebook saw drop in personal sharing after it spooked people about privacy. People messaged instead—arguably the right choice anyway. My lesson is fewer Twitter threads & more long-form—also probably right choice anyway. Not enough protective features to make it worthwile.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Sep 2018

      This morning, I started a thread and then I was like—wait, it will be quoted out of context etc. I'll write it long-form instead. Writing long-form is often a better choice for me anyway, but just noting lack of platform protections is definitely a force fighting network effects.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

      So, days later still going on. Pondering stopping using Twitter for anything substantive unless I get control over whether third-parties can "embed" or quote my tweets—out-of-context embed & quote makes it too easy for too many people to make stupid comments in my mentions. @jack

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

      Maybe they'll screenshot, etc. I know. Whatever. That adds friction—someone has to find the tweet or type my name and then write something. Greatly decreases the fly-by idiot comments. Pointless to report—no deterrence, just work for me. Mute/block pointless: it's fly-by idiocy.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

      I could ignore it—most of it is the zillionth iteration the same stupid comment. But, no, I want control over whether news outlets or anyone can embed my tweets and I want control over whether a tweet in a thread—it's a thread for a reason—can be quote-tweeted in isolation. @jack

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Juan

      Yes. I may do that. I actually like the messy/opennes of Twitter. I don't mind disagreement and can totally ignore the occasional idiocy or insult. But there needs to be controls to add friction to the *volume* of idiocy/insult. Problem is scale/volume.https://twitter.com/JuanIsidro/status/1042401273105014794 …

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      Juan @JuanIsidro
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      Tbh, maybe going private would be a good option for you. You already have a big following (300K strong) which ensures a nice visibility for your content and would foster healthy discussion. Plus going private effectively disables quote retweets and embeds.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

      At a minimum, someone wants to quote a tweet embedded within a thread? Force the outlet/website to embed or quote the *whole* thread. That should discourage the fly-by idiocy and out-of-context quoting. Either that, or Twitter should just disable threads so we get it: no control.

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        1. Jorge Fabrega‏ @jorgefabrega 19 Sep 2018
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          You are important here. Just take a break and come back later. We learn a lot from your comments in this network.

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        1. EternalMauve‏ @hyperpathy 19 Sep 2018
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          I was thinking about this problem, how about the option to make tweets unsearchable? Trolls can't just parachute in on keywords, would have to actually follow. bit more friction, might help the "where the hell did all these Nazis come from??" case

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        1. Clayton Miller‏ @claymill 19 Sep 2018
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          Seems like a lot of this could be solved simply by no longer notifying the author of a tweet on responses to a quote.

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        1. monday‏ @12d855 19 Sep 2018
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          Requiring reCAPTCHA for replies/retweets might work. Also, setting difficulty level might be a nice way to measure engagement/effort relationship. I'd love to see these graphs for a bunch of accounts with different engagement rates.

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        2. Thread Reader App‏ @threadreaderapp 19 Sep 2018
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          Saluti there is your unroll: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1042403487093538816.html … Have a good day. 🤖

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