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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      LOL, while we're at it can I fix my typos in the thread even if I can't have reasonable mechanisms to report or mute the whole barrage? harassment, inadvertent, lol. I had the keyboard set to Turkish. 🙄 😬 😀 It does wonders to spellcheck to write in multiple languages.😀😀

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      Now, of course, this is a hard problem. The same affordances that allow a zillion people to say stupid things at once also allow for funny/fun/important stuff. I'm aware of that. But there should be a way to mute "fruits-of-a-quote-tweet" and/or control embedding/quote tweeting.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      It's a funny game. Last time I wrote about gender/phone size, it was a bit tongue-in-check, but also real. At the outlet, we got paid bonuses based on traffic. Some "men's rights" forums seized on it and my traffic shot up. I was like, umm. Thanks? Distorted incentive alignment.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      Finally, I'll check but I don't think I received a single useful suggestion/conversation from quote tweets. Many who follow me know how much work I do about journalist/dissident security and understand that I'm not complaining because I can't figure out something for myself.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      Unlike replies, the quote tweet takes the whole thing out of context and encourages a barrage of random strangers to make the same mind-numbingly boring and repetitive comments. IMO the quote tweet should be modified. It's not a positive conversation-enhancer in its current form.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      Also: Facebook saw drop in personal sharing after it spooked people about privacy. People messaged instead—arguably the right choice anyway. My lesson is fewer Twitter threads & more long-form—also probably right choice anyway. Not enough protective features to make it worthwile.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Sep 2018

      This morning, I started a thread and then I was like—wait, it will be quoted out of context etc. I'll write it long-form instead. Writing long-form is often a better choice for me anyway, but just noting lack of platform protections is definitely a force fighting network effects.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

      So, days later still going on. Pondering stopping using Twitter for anything substantive unless I get control over whether third-parties can "embed" or quote my tweets—out-of-context embed & quote makes it too easy for too many people to make stupid comments in my mentions. @jack

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

      Maybe they'll screenshot, etc. I know. Whatever. That adds friction—someone has to find the tweet or type my name and then write something. Greatly decreases the fly-by idiot comments. Pointless to report—no deterrence, just work for me. Mute/block pointless: it's fly-by idiocy.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

      I could ignore it—most of it is the zillionth iteration the same stupid comment. But, no, I want control over whether news outlets or anyone can embed my tweets and I want control over whether a tweet in a thread—it's a thread for a reason—can be quote-tweeted in isolation. @jack

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

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      Yes. I may do that. I actually like the messy/opennes of Twitter. I don't mind disagreement and can totally ignore the occasional idiocy or insult. But there needs to be controls to add friction to the *volume* of idiocy/insult. Problem is scale/volume.https://twitter.com/JuanIsidro/status/1042401273105014794 …

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      Juan @JuanIsidro
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      Tbh, maybe going private would be a good option for you. You already have a big following (300K strong) which ensures a nice visibility for your content and would foster healthy discussion. Plus going private effectively disables quote retweets and embeds.
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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

          At a minimum, someone wants to quote a tweet embedded within a thread? Force the outlet/website to embed or quote the *whole* thread. That should discourage the fly-by idiocy and out-of-context quoting. Either that, or Twitter should just disable threads so we get it: no control.

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        1. Rising ❄️ 🦢 🧳  🥀‏ @rk07231004 19 Sep 2018
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          Please don’t go private your posts would reach a smaller audience and you post about some important topics

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        2. Juan‏ @JuanIsidro 19 Sep 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          yeah, you're quite resilient (i stan a fierce queen). i think the combination of factors is maybe something Twitter can work out. they have an option for seeing only replies from people you follow, but that may be too restrictive as you only follow 800+ people.

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        3. Juan‏ @JuanIsidro 19 Sep 2018
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          so maybe something that limits same-replies (repeated "you suck" don't show up on your mentions) or a better semantic quality filter so it can filter non-responses. it can be pretty hard/tricky to find what works.

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        1. Michael Glotzer‏ @Mglo 19 Sep 2018
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          Can private mode be toggled on and off? A good compromise could be to Leave it off most of the time and activate when the ghouls get active.

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        2. Kartik Cating-Subramanian  🏳️‍🌈 ♿ ⚛‏ @selfification 19 Sep 2018
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          After years in the tech industry, this lesson is something I learned painfully. SWEs easily grasp that every couple order-of-magnitude change in the scale of something demands a significant change in architecture of a system. Yet, communication is never treated with such care.

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        3. Kartik Cating-Subramanian  🏳️‍🌈 ♿ ⚛‏ @selfification 19 Sep 2018
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          Human interaction scales as O(n^2) for context-free communication but scales even worse when context is included. Yet, social media treats a date, a dinner party, a class reunion, a community charity event and a mass protest the same. Each is 10 times larger.

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        1. J S‏ @JSnodgers 19 Sep 2018
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          Maybe it would help (on more than just this platform) if people had to scroll through all the previous replies to add a new comment. At the moment it's very easy to be part of a mob without *feeling* like you're part of one. Seeing a post has 500 comments just shows you a number

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