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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      Inadvartent experiment! My tweet on phone size and security got gobbled by the content machine. People Mag, NY Post, etc. featured it. 🙄 Result: a barrage of out-of-context harrasment. Just to see, I reported them. For example, this one is apparently okay by Twitter TOS.🤷‍♀️pic.twitter.com/ywHpKU4P1J

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      After all the outcry, there is still no mechanism on Twitter to deal with a barrage of harrasment. You have to report each tweet individually with many many clicks, and at best that tweet alone is locked—long after you saw it anyway. No benefit to you, no deterrence to harraser.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      There could be so many options but they don't exist. Could designate tweets as "can't embed" or "can't quote" or "can't quote unless following". You could mass report the barrage (which is the real issue, not individual tweets). You could mute "fruits-of-quote tweet".🤷‍♀️

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      The reporting is onerous but results are haphazard. Similar language is sometimes allowed sometimes not. BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. Twitter's remedy of "locking" a past tweet—already in my mentions—is of ZERO value to the person facing the barrage and ZERO deterrence to the harraser.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Tony Cava

      Real. Lots of people seem to spend their lives tweeting "insults" at women who say anything gender related? While they were real people, bots might have been more creative: a revolving array of "cunt" "snowflake" "bitch" "SJW" "first world problems" etc. 🙄https://twitter.com/TonyCava/status/1041361157020217344 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Tony Cava @TonyCava
      Replying to @zeynep
      In your opinion was this tweet from an actual person or a troll-bot, Russian or otherwise? Oh and really? There are “men” that get this upset about phone size and security? Boy howdy do we suck.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

      Ordinarily, I'd have muted or blocked or moved on, if that. The onerous reporting process plus toothless remedy plus lack of ability to deal with the problem (many individuals tweeting boring/stupid insults rather than any one boring/stupid tweet) doesn't incentivize reporting.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

          To be clear, it was much less than what many people face. I could have deleted the tweets, but wanted to see how it went (researcher side > peace-of-mind side hahaha). But my mentions were useless in the middle of the hurricane, and normally Twitter is useful during such crises.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

          LOL, while we're at it can I fix my typos in the thread even if I can't have reasonable mechanisms to report or mute the whole barrage? harassment, inadvertent, lol. I had the keyboard set to Turkish. 🙄 😬 😀 It does wonders to spellcheck to write in multiple languages.😀😀

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

          Now, of course, this is a hard problem. The same affordances that allow a zillion people to say stupid things at once also allow for funny/fun/important stuff. I'm aware of that. But there should be a way to mute "fruits-of-a-quote-tweet" and/or control embedding/quote tweeting.

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

          It's a funny game. Last time I wrote about gender/phone size, it was a bit tongue-in-check, but also real. At the outlet, we got paid bonuses based on traffic. Some "men's rights" forums seized on it and my traffic shot up. I was like, umm. Thanks? Distorted incentive alignment.

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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

          Finally, I'll check but I don't think I received a single useful suggestion/conversation from quote tweets. Many who follow me know how much work I do about journalist/dissident security and understand that I'm not complaining because I can't figure out something for myself.

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        7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

          Unlike replies, the quote tweet takes the whole thing out of context and encourages a barrage of random strangers to make the same mind-numbingly boring and repetitive comments. IMO the quote tweet should be modified. It's not a positive conversation-enhancer in its current form.

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        8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Sep 2018

          Also: Facebook saw drop in personal sharing after it spooked people about privacy. People messaged instead—arguably the right choice anyway. My lesson is fewer Twitter threads & more long-form—also probably right choice anyway. Not enough protective features to make it worthwile.

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        9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Sep 2018

          This morning, I started a thread and then I was like—wait, it will be quoted out of context etc. I'll write it long-form instead. Writing long-form is often a better choice for me anyway, but just noting lack of platform protections is definitely a force fighting network effects.

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        10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

          So, days later still going on. Pondering stopping using Twitter for anything substantive unless I get control over whether third-parties can "embed" or quote my tweets—out-of-context embed & quote makes it too easy for too many people to make stupid comments in my mentions. @jack

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        11. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

          Maybe they'll screenshot, etc. I know. Whatever. That adds friction—someone has to find the tweet or type my name and then write something. Greatly decreases the fly-by idiot comments. Pointless to report—no deterrence, just work for me. Mute/block pointless: it's fly-by idiocy.

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        12. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

          I could ignore it—most of it is the zillionth iteration the same stupid comment. But, no, I want control over whether news outlets or anyone can embed my tweets and I want control over whether a tweet in a thread—it's a thread for a reason—can be quote-tweeted in isolation. @jack

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        13. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Juan

          Yes. I may do that. I actually like the messy/opennes of Twitter. I don't mind disagreement and can totally ignore the occasional idiocy or insult. But there needs to be controls to add friction to the *volume* of idiocy/insult. Problem is scale/volume.https://twitter.com/JuanIsidro/status/1042401273105014794 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Juan @JuanIsidro
          Replying to @zeynep
          Tbh, maybe going private would be a good option for you. You already have a big following (300K strong) which ensures a nice visibility for your content and would foster healthy discussion. Plus going private effectively disables quote retweets and embeds.
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        14. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2018

          At a minimum, someone wants to quote a tweet embedded within a thread? Force the outlet/website to embed or quote the *whole* thread. That should discourage the fly-by idiocy and out-of-context quoting. Either that, or Twitter should just disable threads so we get it: no control.

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