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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Sep 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted CNN

      Measurement choice is destiny, case zillion. The popular hurricane scale, Saffir-Simpson, is based on highest sustained wind-speed—only one kind of risk, and often not the most important one. Florence is now larger, but with slightly slower winds at the center. So "weakened".😱https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1040191619209867265 …

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      Hurricane Florence has weakened to a Category 2 hurricane -- but the impact of the immense storm will still be catastrophic for millions of people https://cnn.it/2OctAQB 
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Sep 2018

      Chapel Hill/Carrboro is juuuuust on the border of Florence bands—don't even have rain where I am. Maybe later. All thoughts with coastal NC/SC communities who are experiencing brutal flooding and the first responders. Also, we really should stop using the Saffir-Simpson scale.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Sep 2018

      In SE North Carolina, there is massive rain, occasionally record-breaking storm-surge, ongoing river flooding in river basins dramatically worsened due to massive rain more upstream. "Maximum wind at center" is not a good indicator. Choice of indicators always have big effects.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Sep 2018

          Also, USPS just delivered. And Chapel Hill Public Library is keeping regular hours today. 💪 The conditions here are still okay but almost everything is shut down. They are not. #Florencepic.twitter.com/EeasseZmvd

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        2. Nate Johnson‏Verified account @nsj 14 Sep 2018
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          This is a well-known issue amongst weather folk. It's a sticky problem because we want to categorize based on observations (wind speed is something we can measure or at least estimate while storm is offshore) not forecast. Surge, rain, etc. can't be measured until landfall.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Sep 2018
          Replying to @nsj

          Yeah, familiar with some of the discussions. Clearly, there needs to be indicators that are actionable for people, rather than easiest to put number on. A scale for evacuation; a scale for tree-falling risk; a scale for flooding, etc. Biggest decision is evacuating, of course.

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        2. Nate Johnson‏Verified account @nsj 14 Sep 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          It's a big reason why the NWS, NHC, and most competent meteorologists have been falling all over ourselves trying to talk about flooding risks first despite categorizations. 2/

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Sep 2018
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          yep! The crisis in New Bern etc. is heartbreaking!

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        2. Nate Johnson‏Verified account @nsj 14 Sep 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          But you're absolutely right. We talk about a storm in terms of winds for *weeks* and expect people to pivot to water in the last 24-48 hours. It's a BIG problem for us. 3/3 cc: @WxComm @jimmyc42

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        3. james correia j☈, PhD‏ @jimmyc42 14 Sep 2018
          Replying to @nsj @zeynep @WxComm

          Wind is accessible over the ocean via plane, so its a convenience measure which does describe risks. application to lives and the built environment much harder with "just wind". 1/n

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        2. David Dellanave‏Verified account @ddn 14 Sep 2018
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          legibility is one of the most important concepts I learned in 2018 and it touches everywhere once you grok it. What and how we make legible affects *everything* downstream.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Sep 2018
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          Absolutely!

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