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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Sep 2018

      Sheryl Sandberg is asked about selling/sharing data. She says "we sell ads", implying they don't sell data. That's true, but no defense. Facebook sells users' attention to advertisers by profiling them based on extensive surveillance. That's the root problem. #techhearings

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Sep 2018

      Sandberg/Facebook is asked what they don't allow. She says "hate speech/bullying, etc."—as per TOS. Fine, but the real action is the process that FB (and the industry) uses to police content. That's where it all goes down, as shaped by business model—how the cost center operates.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Sep 2018

      Marco Rubio asked a very good question. It's one thing for Sandberg/Dorsey to come wrapped in "our values" to the US Congressional hearings. But they operate worldwide—billions of people use these sites as public/social sphere. This is a crucial, thorny issue. #techhearings

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Sep 2018

      Another great question from Senator Heinrich. "Authentic" as a word only does so much work—mostly works when paired with "foreign" and "coordinated". Facebook leans on that phrase, but it really only does fairly little work considering what the core problem is.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Sep 2018

      Harris/Sandberg exchange on how "white men" got to be a "protected category" on Facebook but not "black children" is telling in how the public conversation misses core problems. Sandberg said it was a mistake, ok but it was a consequence of business model/scale, not some hatred.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Sep 2018

          Dorsey's own opening statement talked about incentives, and how the business models and incentives on these platforms interact with human/social dynamics. Kinda surprising that there aren't more questions on that: that's the crucial issue.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Sep 2018

          Every journalist tweeting or periscoping that “clown,” and @Twitter for making his stunt a moment and showing me—what will it take for you to stop being played? You’re big part of the problem. If harassing Sandy Hook families won’t do it, what will it take to understand the game?

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        2. Daniel O'Donnell‏ @danothebeach 5 Sep 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          @threadreaderapp unroll thanks

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        3. Thread Reader App‏ @threadreaderapp 5 Sep 2018
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          Bonjour you can read it here: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1037360672449945601.html … Share this if you think it's interesting. 🤖

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        1. Ruby knows why Cassandra lost her mind‏ @Ruby 5 Sep 2018
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          That wasn't a mistake! It was by design. https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-hate-speech-censorship-internal-documents-algorithms …

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        2. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 5 Sep 2018
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          Have you listened to the Radiolab podcast about this issue? How Facebook got to that weird outcome doesn't seem related to ad incentives, just a pernicious outcome of their initial content rules. I agree with you that incentives are crazy important, but may not be issue here.

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        3. Soraya Chemaly‏Verified account @schemaly 6 Sep 2018
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          Ditto. Same with other categories, like not counting “cunt” as gendered or abusive. Lots of linguistic biases regardless of profit model. Those are important too, given machine learning role etc.

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        1. DARosenthal‏ @DARosenthal 5 Sep 2018
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          "I mean yes, it's regrettable... but it was just a side effect of our efforts to rapidly scale a new technology." –Mr.A. Hitler, CEO-Nazicorp

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        2. based ball‏ @dangerdaveball 5 Sep 2018
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          @threadreaderapp unroll

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          Hello, you can read it here: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1037360672449945601.html … Talk to you soon. 🤖

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