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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Jul 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jonathan Stray

      At this point, any other suggestion besides some form of verifiable paper trail plus meaningful audit means that the person either doesn’t understand voting, computers, people, their intersection—or likely doesn’t understand any of it. 🤷‍♀️https://twitter.com/jonathanstray/status/1023611761973506048 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jonathan Stray @jonathanstray
      Paper ballots. Not digital voting systems. I know it seems painful, but this is why paper voting is the consensus of information security professionals. (And no, blockchain will not solve this -- there's still a hackable computer somewhere.) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hackers-break-into-voting-machines-defcon-las-vegas/ …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Jul 2018

      Information security professionals tend to be independent-minded—often with a contrarian streak. It fits the profession. “What if I follow this seemingly hopeless trail fifty-different ways?” If consensus emerges, it’s a pretty strong signal.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Jul 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Richard Rathe

      Optical scan ballots with meaningful audit processes are a perfectly reasonable method.https://twitter.com/richard_rathe/status/1023909436925112320 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Richard Rathe @richard_rathe
      Replying to @zeynep
      We have a "bubble sheet" ballot here in #AlachuaCounty #Florida which is scanned as you leave the voting room. Seems to be best of both worlds to me... instant, electronic tally with original paper documents available in case of recount or investigation. What's not to like? 🤔
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        2. Steven M. Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 30 Jul 2018
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          Steven M. Bellovin Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          Note carefully @zeynep ‘s wording: *with meaningful audit processes*. Seatbelts don’t protect you if you don’t wear them; paper ballots don’t protect elections if they never properly examined.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1023926111519100929 …

          Steven M. Bellovin added,

          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          Optical scan ballots with meaningful audit processes are a perfectly reasonable method. https://twitter.com/richard_rathe/status/1023909436925112320 …
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        3. Annie's Pandaemonium Burger  🍔 🍟 😈‏ @ann_arcana 30 Jul 2018
          Replying to @SteveBellovin @zeynep

          Also, the recount process itself needs to be depoliticized, so that if mismatches occur they are automatically handled. It doesn't do any good to have paper backups if no one ever checks them, or the winning party pushes the system to block validation.

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        1. Chip Uni‏ @chip_uni 30 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          For blind voters, I would still like there to be voice controlled terminals. But ALL that they do is print on the blind voter's ballot.

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        2. next_ghost  💉 💉 💉‏ @next_ghost_cz 30 Jul 2018
          Replying to @VD0meras @zeynep

          Randomly choose (*AFTER* the voting ends) about 10% of polling places to be recounted manually. If you get a different result in any randomly selected place, recount everything by hand. One compromised polling place isn't enough to change the result of the whole election.

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        2. next_ghost  💉 💉 💉‏ @next_ghost_cz 30 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          Yes. And if voters cast their ballots into a ballot box where they'll wait until the end of voting before they get fed into scanners, it'll also ensure anonymity of votes.

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        3. James Ratcliffe‏ @Jmratcliffe3 30 Jul 2018
          Replying to @next_ghost_cz @zeynep

          Disagree on this - in NYC, it gets fed into the scanner immediately, and if there's an error (double-voting, unreadable, etc.), it's immediately spat back, so the voter can correct or (if they want), just go ahead.

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        1. Robert Field‏ @ProgrammerRcf 30 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          Santa Clara County (Silicon Valley) now uses scannable paper ballots. Very large stiff paper. Of course paper has its own vulnerabilities but they can't be altered over the Internet.

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