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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Jul 2018

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jonathan Stray

    At this point, any other suggestion besides some form of verifiable paper trail plus meaningful audit means that the person either doesn’t understand voting, computers, people, their intersection—or likely doesn’t understand any of it. 🤷‍♀️https://twitter.com/jonathanstray/status/1023611761973506048 …

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    Jonathan Stray @jonathanstray
    Paper ballots. Not digital voting systems. I know it seems painful, but this is why paper voting is the consensus of information security professionals. (And no, blockchain will not solve this -- there's still a hackable computer somewhere.) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hackers-break-into-voting-machines-defcon-las-vegas/ …
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Jul 2018

        Information security professionals tend to be independent-minded—often with a contrarian streak. It fits the profession. “What if I follow this seemingly hopeless trail fifty-different ways?” If consensus emerges, it’s a pretty strong signal.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Jul 2018

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Richard Rathe

        Optical scan ballots with meaningful audit processes are a perfectly reasonable method.https://twitter.com/richard_rathe/status/1023909436925112320 …

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        Richard Rathe @richard_rathe
        Replying to @zeynep
        We have a "bubble sheet" ballot here in #AlachuaCounty #Florida which is scanned as you leave the voting room. Seems to be best of both worlds to me... instant, electronic tally with original paper documents available in case of recount or investigation. What's not to like? 🤔
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      1. Joshua Stein, philosophy, ethics, politics‏ @thephilosotroll 29 Jul 2018
        Replying to @zeynep

        I agree, though it is important to distinguish "paper trail" from "paper ballots," as American voting history gives us some idea of the problem with certain iterations of paper ballots.

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      1. John Armenta‏ @johnarmenta 29 Jul 2018
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        Or doesn't care.

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      1. Brian Orce‏ @jimnobu 29 Jul 2018
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        Or they stand to gain, financially, from the electronic voting hardware contracts

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      1. Schin सचिन गर्ग Garg‏ @randomdabbler 29 Jul 2018
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        All electronic voting machines need not be connected to the Internet nor be full fledged PCs running some version of Windows. Check out the machines in India that now have VVPAT (Voter Verifiable Paper Audit Trail). @zeynep @jonathanstray

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      1. junior‏ @jaftweeter 29 Jul 2018
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        Paper balloting could be a headwind against Ranked Choice Voting.

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      2. Ben Norris‏ @Norro21 29 Jul 2018
        Replying to @zeynep @timoreilly

        Votes signed with a public key system are verifiable and non-tamperable. These current issues are to do with bad implementation not the whole concept. If you think paper voting is safer then you probably don't understand how vulnerable that is too.

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      1. Cornelius Hardenbergh  🚴🏻‍♂️‏Verified account @HBAdventure 29 Jul 2018
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        Or they want the election rigged untraceably.

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