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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Jul 2018
      Replying to @WillOremus

      I totally disagree that this study can show this. "Internet non-user" is not a meaningful comparison category for 2016. The whole ecology of information has shifted and everyone is affected—even if you never touched a computer. Hard to measure, sure, but this isn't that measure.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @WillOremus

      I turned on CNN yesterday & it was all about Trump's tweets. Fox News clearly shifted in content in 2016 to competewith Breitbart which has been top performer on Facebook during most of 2016. There's no "non-internet user" (already a tiny category) that is isolated from all this.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Jul 2018
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      Maybe 10% of the US population is not on the internet (the authors didn't have a reliable, recent measure so they use an estimate—I can't find a data table for the estimate) and the idea they are totally isolated from info ecology shift and a good comparison group doesn't hold./

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    5. Christian Hendricks‏ @chrhend 25 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @WillOremus

      I agree with your skepticism of any isolation from net ecology, but I also think it's fair to say that television (even if regurgitating net info) was an even better friend of Trump because it amplified all this Trump news/info + spewed its routine oversimplified "wisdom" on them

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Jul 2018
      Replying to @chrhend @WillOremus

      TV and internet are not separate like that anymore. TV competes for online stuff or attention; TV incessantly covers whatever happens online and has been for a long time; TV people play to social media and vice versa etc. etc. etc. ~10% non-users not a good comparison group.

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    7. Christian Hendricks‏ @chrhend 25 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @WillOremus

      Right, agreed. But there has been a growing conventional wisdom that attributes a Trump victory to Internet-specific things like memes and clickbait fake news, and that’s not really accurate.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Jul 2018
      Replying to @chrhend @WillOremus

      Shift in the information ecology due to digital technologies is absolutely a part of the story. Like any historical phenomenon worth discussing, it's not mono-causal. Whatever the complexity, I don't see how the tiny internet non-users as a comparison group answers this question.

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        1. Christian Hendricks‏ @chrhend 25 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @WillOremus

          Yes. 100% Long live nuance and complexity! :)

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