Okay but I was talking about innovation cultures, and what they can learn from each other, and why publicity and/or VIPs are a problem in rescues/disaster recovery. I didn't see that covered—otherwise I wouldn't bother. I try not to write "fashionable." No need for me.
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Replying to @zeynep @GarethDennis
That's not how I or many others read your article. And the problems of media in rescues of all kinds are very well known. E.g in my copy of the cave rescue book On Call... and it's the pre-twitter 2001 edition. :)pic.twitter.com/7McxCNIsbY
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Replying to @peterktodd @GarethDennis
I didn't say I discovered media as a problem in rescues! Lol, of course not. Every rescuer knows this. But I'm gonna go with covered in 2001 dead-tree book that's not even well-known outside the rescue community as not fashionable enough for me to avoid writing about.
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Replying to @zeynep @GarethDennis
Well, thats kinda the problem... What public good did your article actually serve? Could you have done better? What I'm seeing is more entertainment than enlightenment. A better ratio than most, but still bad.
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Replying to @peterktodd @zeynep
Nope. It perfectly encapsulated a serious problem that propagates across my industry and others at the moment. That innovation is only disruptive, and this is being driven by the attitudes of SV.
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Replying to @GarethDennis @zeynep
It's a huge stretch to talk about a metal tube with scuba tanks and regulators strapped to the side as "disruptive"... The solution used was more arguably disruptive: a risky set of drugs, full face masks, and audacity to do something never done before.
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Replying to @peterktodd @GarethDennis
My argument is that both cultures are innovative and disruptive—in different ways. More bureaucratic-seeming safety cultures are often quite creative and innovative. Giant risks for sure, kids couldn't equalize with full face-masks plus what appear to be some dosage of benzos?
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Replying to @zeynep @GarethDennis
But remember, SpaceX *is* an example of that kind of culture too; SpaceX isn't typical silicon valley. In fact, it's probably the case that the cave diving community is *less* of a buracratic safety culture rhan SpaceX. Dry caving sure is. These just aren't good comparisons.
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You don't get to space consistently without serious amounts of buracracy, engineering, and paperwork. I'd be very surprised if the average UK cave diver did as much safety paperwork as the average SpaceX engineer. E.g. still arguing about checklists: http://www.scubaverse.com/is-a-pre-dive-checklist-overkill-for-recreational-divers/ …
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Replying to @peterktodd @zeynep
I don't think anyone is doubting that... SpaceX are a space engineering company so I'd expect no less.
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Sure. Also SpaceX is personless. I am personally still awestruck that the rescue worked. What a huge risk everyone took to plan it, to authorize it, to dare it. I was personally quite pessimistic they would get all 13 out alive given the conditions/non-swimming kids...
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Weird that *this* is your first tweet...
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